Recent Chapter Discussion

[GreatSaiyaman123]

Is this Nappa?

 

[SSJ2]

Looks like it. Wouldn't that make Nappa like 70 years old in Z? lol

 

[Ultimate Cell]

I dont think thats nappa, his hair is different

 

[Pocket-Gog~]

I dont think thats nappa, his hair is different

Its his son

 

[ahill1]

I dont think thats nappa, his hair is different

He didn't have a hair

 

[SIAD]

He looks a bit like Nappa, but Nappa doesn't have hair and I don't think he's very old either.

 

[SSJ2]

Nappa had hair in the Bardock special.

 

[Son Gokū]

That's not Nappa, but I can't remember his name. He's had other showings.
I'm super surprised that there are still people that don't like Dad after his canon showing. He's still the same guy, just without the future vision stuff. The canon stuff is just showing us a lot more. Good stuff. Awesome stuff! Can't wait for more!

 

[Ultimate Cell]

That's not Nappa, but I can't remember his name. He's had other showings.
I'm super surprised that there are still people that don't like Dad after his canon showing. He's still the same guy, just without the future vision stuff. The canon stuff is just showing us a lot more. Good stuff. Awesome stuff! Can't wait for more!

 

[Pocket-Gog~]

I'm super surprised that there are still people that don't like Dad after his canon showing. He's still the same guy, just without the future vision stuff. The canon stuff is just showing us a lot more.

He is so obviously not the same character, lol. OG Bardock considered Goku to be worthless trash, while Nu-dock loves his son.

 

[Animelover5487]

He is so obviously not the same character, lol. OG Bardock considered Goku to be worthless trash, while Nu-dock loves his son.

Toei Bardock considered Goku trash. We didn't know anything about Bardock or his relationship with his family in canon until Minus.

 

[Pocket-Gog~]

Toei Bardock considered Goku trash. We didn't know anything about Bardock or his relationship with his family in canon until Minus.

I don't know its telling that OG Bardock considered his son to be a weakling and discarded him. While Toriyama's Bardock loved his son and changed his ways because of him. Goku is also one of the main way these two characters are characterized and is easy to contrast the two based on how they treat him.

 

[SIAD]

During this month of October, I dedicated myself to see all DBS part 1 (131 Anime Chapters, the first 42 Manga Chapters and now I will see the Broly Movie).

 

[SSJ2]

That's a lot of Super!

 

[SIAD]

I can tell you that at least in the Anime, all ToP fighters (except for Botamo) are superior to all DB / DBZ / DBGT (except for Gogeta SSJ4, Goku (EoGT) and Genkidama Universal).

Virtually irrelevant characters such as Dr. Rota or Caway, in some other way or another, are not completely insignificant compared to Goku Base (ToP), therefore they scale.

Recall that Goku SSJG (Initial) >>>>>>> Beerus (False "10%") >>>>> Vegeta SSJ2 (Enraged)> Beerus (Initial) >> Vegetto SSJ3 (BoG)> Ultimatte Gokhan (BoG) >>>>> Ultimatte Gokhan (Boo) >>> Vegetto SSJ3 (Boo).

Then Goku SSJG getting used to the form had 4 power increases and at the moment when Goku SSJG was turning on for the last time, he launched a Kamehameha that collided with a blow from Beerus (Suppressed) and such impact was strong enough to make it disappear Universe 7. They could say that the sum of both powers can destroy Universe 7, however it must be considered that much of the impact hits them and the Universe only receives the energy waves that bounced.

Later Goku SSJ absorbed all the power of the SSJG, then he had a power increase as SSJ. Finally, the clash between the Kamehameha of a Goku SSJ (Post God) and a Beerus (Suppressed), turned into a single ball of energy and Goku Base (Post God) managed to destroy it.

We can say that Goku SSJG (Peak) is a Universal Destroyer and Goku Base (Post God) is much more powerful still.

Then a Goku much more than 10x stronger and probably with a decrease in the SSJ multiplier (considering that in the ToP, the SSJ multiplier on the Base did not seem to be higher than 2.5x), it could be said that Goku Base (ToP / Anime) is many tens or maybe hundreds of times stronger than Goku Base (Post God).

Characters like Gogeta SSJ4 and Goku (EoGT) I have more or less at the level of the SSJB (ToP). Indeed Gogeta SSJ4 did not fight seriously at any point in his fight. According to the GT Perfect Archives, Gogeta SSJ4 has Unlimited and unquenchable power, which means that Gogeta SSJ4 outperforms hypothetical like a hypothetical Potara fusion between Goku (EoGT) and Pan SSJ4. He also beats hypothetical Trunkten SSJ4 and Gotenks SSJ4.

Goku (EoGT) is probably a God, Goku by absorbing the Dragon Balls, surely he reached the power of Omega Yi Xing Long? He then trained for 100 years, managing to stay young. I think Goku (EoGT) having such great power, his power would not increase much even if he fused with Potara with an SSJ4. Gogeta SSJ4 is still stronger than Goku (EoGT).

Characters like Infinite Zamasu and God Toppo are in the category of Universe +, therefore any character that climbs to them, surpasses Gogeta SSJ4 and even a hypothetical Vegetto SSJ4.

 

[SIAD]

For exactly 5 weeks, I started watching DBS from the beginning in both Manga and Anime and today I finally finished it.

 

[Pocket-Gog~]

For exactly 5 weeks, I started watching DBS from the beginning in both Manga and Anime and today I finally finished it.

How bad was it?

I can tell you that at least in the Anime, all ToP fighters (except for Botamo) are superior to all DB / DBZ / DBGT (except for Gogeta SSJ4, Goku (EoGT) and Genkidama Universal).

Virtually irrelevant characters such as Dr. Rota or Caway, in some other way or another, are not completely insignificant compared to Goku Base (ToP), therefore they scale.

Recall that Goku SSJG (Initial) >>>>>>> Beerus (False "10%") >>>>> Vegeta SSJ2 (Enraged)> Beerus (Initial) >> Vegetto SSJ3 (BoG)> Ultimatte Gokhan (BoG) >>>>> Ultimatte Gokhan (Boo) >>> Vegetto SSJ3 (Boo).

Then Goku SSJG getting used to the form had 4 power increases and at the moment when Goku SSJG was turning on for the last time, he launched a Kamehameha that collided with a blow from Beerus (Suppressed) and such impact was strong enough to make it disappear Universe 7. They could say that the sum of both powers can destroy Universe 7, however it must be considered that much of the impact hits them and the Universe only receives the energy waves that bounced.

Later Goku SSJ absorbed all the power of the SSJG, then he had a power increase as SSJ. Finally, the clash between the Kamehameha of a Goku SSJ (Post God) and a Beerus (Suppressed), turned into a single ball of energy and Goku Base (Post God) managed to destroy it.

We can say that Goku SSJG (Peak) is a Universal Destroyer and Goku Base (Post God) is much more powerful still.

Then a Goku much more than 10x stronger and probably with a decrease in the SSJ multiplier (considering that in the ToP, the SSJ multiplier on the Base did not seem to be higher than 2.5x), it could be said that Goku Base (ToP / Anime) is many tens or maybe hundreds of times stronger than Goku Base (Post God).

Characters like Gogeta SSJ4 and Goku (EoGT) I have more or less at the level of the SSJB (ToP). Indeed Gogeta SSJ4 did not fight seriously at any point in his fight. According to the GT Perfect Archives, Gogeta SSJ4 has Unlimited and unquenchable power, which means that Gogeta SSJ4 outperforms hypothetical like a hypothetical Potara fusion between Goku (EoGT) and Pan SSJ4. He also beats hypothetical Trunkten SSJ4 and Gotenks SSJ4.

Goku (EoGT) is probably a God, Goku by absorbing the Dragon Balls, surely he reached the power of Omega Yi Xing Long? He then trained for 100 years, managing to stay young. I think Goku (EoGT) having such great power, his power would not increase much even if he fused with Potara with an SSJ4. Gogeta SSJ4 is still stronger than Goku (EoGT).

Characters like Infinite Zamasu and God Toppo are in the category of Universe +, therefore any character that climbs to them, surpasses Gogeta SSJ4 and even a hypothetical Vegetto SSJ4.

SIAD when Goku transforms into SSJG in ToP:

 

[Pyro]

https://imgur.com/a/EI8Gzfs

Powered up Gas wrecking SSB Goku and Granolah.

 

[Evil Vegeta]

I wonder how the wish was made exactly.

Was it to release his latent power or did they go the Granolah route that greatly reduced his lifespan?

Gas looks a lot cooler now.

 

[Papasmurf]

I wonder how the wish was made exactly.

Was it to release his latent power or did they go the Granolah route that greatly reduced his lifespan?

Gas looks a lot cooler now.

So why did Gas change appearances when Granolah merely gained longer hair?