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Ultimate Cell said:
Whats are some of your favorite guilty pleasure media?
As far as a genre or niche, I'd probably say the less outstanding 80s action flicks, the Toxic Avenger series coming to mind straight away. Beyond that though, I'm struggling to think of specific "guilty pleasures" that I like a lot beyond the odd video game (mainly multiplayer ones that have little to offer substantially but can be fun, Rogue Company being a new example). Maybe GT as well due to some of the character designs and having at least better ideas and execution than the modern DB cashgrab :troll.

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Between Endgame and Terminator, which movie/series has the most confusing time travel stuff?
If only counting the two worthwhile Terminator films, Endgame by virtue that you can at least make some logical assumptions on Terminator's loop (eg. John Connor's father may have been different prior to Kyle Reese going back in time), whereas Endgame has some elements impossible to justify as more than plot holes (eg. why did Thor not fine tune the time machine to rejuvenate him back to his Infinity War physique?). Counting the cashgrab sequels of Terminator though, it takes it purely due to how contrived it is that Skynet keeps coming back in a new form that completely spits in the face of T2's ending.
 

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Why do you think T2 gets so much praise for its "depth" when the bond between John and the Terminator is almost contrived due to the entire film taking place over a few days, on top of considerable plot shield for Sarah Connor (T-1000 not just killing her when he could copy her afterwards, her conveniently having the reaction time to evade the cops' gunfire while Dyson got shot before he could react)?

Some people act like the movie is a work of art (more than some people, really) but while its special effects were revolutionary, the story doesn't really live up to them.
 

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The film explored character chemistry a lot better than the first, John and the T-800's bond making sense when considering how much his unconventional home life would increase the impact of such a quickly formed yet healthy bond, with the main reason for their praise being how it built from the events of the first film in a realistic way (nobody would realistically believe Sarah's warnings of the future and the outcome would indeed cause a strain bond between her and John) and the premise of the T-800 learning humanity hadn't been done to death just yet in 1991. I wouldn't say Sarah escaping what Dyson couldn't is contrived when it's made apparent she's had some level of military training from her experiences prior to being incarcerated, which would include greater ability to react. Her not being killed by the T-1000 could be seen as contrived, but it isn't without reason when considering keeping her alive could've worked as a contingency to distract John with a classic "which is the real one" in case he was too wary, though keeping her gun still within reach was indeed a flaw to the plan.

I'd agree it's far from being a masterpiece, though I wouldn't say the story falls flat either.
 

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The story isn't bad or anything, just overrated due to the film's popularity. The T-1000 not killing Sarah becomes extra contrived by the fact that he tortured her for the express purpose of getting her to call for John when he can mimic her voice and appearance any time he wants (and should've been able to do it before he tortured her, considering he cut her during the asylum escape). It's just plot shield really. He also should've taken her gun as you said.
 

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Captain Cadaver said:
Ultimate Cell said:
Whats are some of your favorite guilty pleasure media?
As far as a genre or niche, I'd probably say the less outstanding 80s action flicks, the Toxic Avenger series coming to mind straight away. Beyond that though, I'm struggling to think of specific "guilty pleasures" that I like a lot beyond the odd video game (mainly multiplayer ones that have little to offer substantially but can be fun, Rogue Company being a new example). Maybe GT as well due to some of the character designs and having at least better ideas and execution than the modern DB cashgrab :troll.

GreatSaiyaman123 said:
Between Endgame and Terminator, which movie/series has the most confusing time travel stuff?
If only counting the two worthwhile Terminator films, Endgame by virtue that you can at least make some logical assumptions on Terminator's loop (eg. John Connor's father may have been different prior to Kyle Reese going back in time), whereas Endgame has some elements impossible to justify as more than plot holes (eg. why did Thor not fine tune the time machine to rejuvenate him back to his Infinity War physique?). Counting the cashgrab sequels of Terminator though, it takes it purely due to how contrived it is that Skynet keeps coming back in a new form that completely spits in the face of T2's ending.

And what if we put DBZ/DBS in the mix? :troll
 

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DBZ's time travel is definitely worse than either series when it boils down to being an excuse for new events to get thrown into the narrative without a coherent through-line, though I wouldn't say it's leagues worse than Endgame's. DBS time travel is just a completely different tier of bad though due to the amount of paradoxes Zamasu's time travel creates, though it's at least better by principle than most series that use time resets for plot convenience.
 

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Captain Cadaver said:
DBZ's time travel is definitely worse than either series when it boils down to being an excuse for new events to get thrown into the narrative without a coherent through-line, though I wouldn't say it's leagues worse than Endgame's. DBS time travel is just a completely different tier of bad though due to the amount of paradoxes Zamasu's time travel creates, though it's at least better by principle than most series that use time resets for plot convenience.

What about borutos time travel :et
 

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Worse than Super's by virtue of not even having any impact on the plot and being even more unnecessary when the original Naruto manga presented nothing to hint towards time travel being a thing.
Of course, asspulls completely alien to Naruto are an everyday occurrence in Burrito. :troll2
 

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Are you planning to do a review of the boys season 2 once all the episodes are released? Also what is your opinion on the comics if you read them.
 

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I currently don't have Prime Video at the moment, so it'll be a while before that, but I plan on watching Season 2 eventually. I haven't read the comics, though what I've seen of them makes for a far inferior version when the characters are far less complex (The Deep, especially), the Boys having superpowers makes the conflicts nowhere near as interesting and the tone definitely limits it in being almost mean-spirited towards the superhero genre with its edgier moments rather than an honest deconstruction as the tv series is.
 

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Which Seiyuu would you pick to voice the adult versions of Galu, Gohan and Goten?
 

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I'd probably go with just scrapping any plans of anime continuity of the franchise is Nozawa died or was otherwise incapable of voice acting in the manner Joji Yanami now is. If having to choose someone, it'd still be difficult when considering the unique voice she brought and the subtleties she uses to separate each of the Son family's performances, though Rica Matsumoto seems like the best bet.
 

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So you're not in favor of an adult male voice for the Son family? Can't really see a Bakura voice working well for any of them besides maybe using good Bakura for Gohan's non-fighter persona.
 

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Considering how iconic Nozawa's voice has been, having a male voice actor that's completely different would seem like a bad move after all these decades. Would seem like too much of a departure, especially when other replacements usually aim to keep the tone of voice intact.
 

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Well, a voice can be deeper in pitch and still keep some inflections and mannerisms intact.
 

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It would be very difficult to do with a male seiyuu though, considering how distinct Nozawa's voice is and how Japanese females tend to have a better range of depth and tones to their voices. Megumi Ogawa may be another potential candidate.
 

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