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Lol @ Moro arc's 0.1/10 rating. No surprise there, but are you leaving it just enough room so that if the ending is worse than you expect right now, you can lower it to a 0? :alex2
It has more to do with the Moro Arc still having some moments or ideas that were at least somewhat decent now and then (Vegeta apologising to the Namekians for his past actions, for instance) that prevent every single aspect it did from being completely terrible or worthless, so I couldn't really cite it as a complete 0 regardless of how bad it ended up being.

Pokemon
Kanto and Orange Islands - 5/10
Johto - 3/10
Advanced Generation - 2/10
Diamond and Pearl - 3/10
Black and White - 1/10
XY - 4/10
Sun and Moon - :cena/10 (Guzzlord's cry is 10/10 meme material though. Didn't bother with it beyond that, nor the current animu).

Yu-Gi-Oh!
Pre-Duel Monsters events - 6/10
Duellist Kingdom Arc - 5/10
Post-DK filler - 1/10
Battle City Arc - 4/10
Noah Arc - 2/10
Dartz Arc - Infinity+1/10 :manabu 1.5/10
The Tournament after Dartz - :idk/10 (skipped it)
Millennium World - 3/10
Dark Side of Dimensions - 1.5/10

Death Note (and Obata's other works
L Arc - 8/10
Mellow/Near Arc - 3/10
Bakuman (as a whole) - 4/10
All You Need is Time Resets - 1/10

Devilman
Initial events - 5.5/10
Apocalypse - 6/10
Devilman Lady - 3/10 at best

FMA
East City Arc - 7.5/10
Central City Arc - 8.5/10
Briggs Arc - 8/10
The Promised Day - 9/10

Slam Dunk
In Training Arc - 5.5/10
Practice Matches Arc - 6/10
National Preliminaries Arc - 6.5/10
National Championships Arc - 7/10

*Admittedly, my memories are murky on a fair few details between the initial events and the ending, so rereading it at some point may be warranted.

Vagabond
Takezo/Kyoto Arcs - 6/10
Hozoin Arc - 6.5/10
Yagyu/Baiken Arcs - 7/10
Kojiro Arc - 5.5/10
Yoshioka Arc - 7/10
Ichijoji's Aftermath/Wandering Arcs - 5/10
Farming Arc - 2/10

Berserk
Black Swordsman Arc - 6.5/10
Golden Age Arc - 10/10
Lost Children Arc - 6.5/10
Tower of Conviction Arc - 7/10
Millenium of the Hawk/Kushan War Arc - 3/10
Fantasia Arc - 2/10 (still haven't seen enough of Gaiseric's backstory or the repercussions of Casca's memory returning to boost it much more than from a 1.5/10)

Legend of the Galactic Heroes
Season 1/Books 1-2 - 9/10
Seasons 2-4/Books 3-10 - 10/10

Battle Angel Alita
Initial events - 6/10
Motorball Arc - 7/10
Figure Four Arc - 6/10
Den Arc - 8/10
Revival - 5.5/10
Zenith of Things Tournament - 9/10
Alita Quest - 5.5/10
Mars Chronicle - 5/10

Ping Pong
Smacking balls around - 2/10
Hilarity factor of some faces - 10/10 :troll
 

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I could observe that you despise hypocritical characters. In which scenarios do you think this trait could be well-written?
 

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I wouldn't say I inherently hate hypocritical characters, though the problem with hypocrisy is that it can lead to a character being inconsistent if the reasons for their hypocrisy aren't well explored. Zamasu serves as a major example for this when the idea of his crusade against mortals when he is one falls apart, not to mention him treating those of divine origin like the Shin-jin as naturally superior to mortals is pretty dumb when U10 clearly has warriors that make the Kaio and Kaioshin of other universes seem like weaklings and mortals have displayed intelligence in some areas that surpasses the Shin-jin.

That said, the most important thing with hypocritical characters is making their internal thought process consistent and understandable. Perhaps the best case of this that comes to mind is Tony Soprano from The Sopranos. The many facets of his life are ones that can't balance with each other. He's both a family man and Catholic, yet his mafia lifestyle of murder and affairs are at odds with this and such hypocrisy is well explored through his upbringing in his lifestyle as well as his own mentality (the later seasons making it apparent he's a sociopath).
The main theme of a work can also affect how well hypocritical characters can work. The Sopranos is, again, an overall great example of this due to the contradictions within the mafia lifestyle cause (Season 3's ending being the perfect portrayal of it). For another relevant example (as I'm currently rewatching it), most of the cast of Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood and the FMA manga present a good use of hypocrisy as shown by Kimblee calling out several characters for their flawed perception such as Mustang, Riza, Al, etc. as, not only had all these characters been fleshed out enough for us to know their moral compass, but their refusal to consider certain outcomes ties into the theme of optimism vs cynicism that runs heavily through the series.
 

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Don't you think you're giving the Pokemon arcs rather high ratings considering that most episodes that don't amount to evolutions or party changes being repetitive filler is a recurrent problem in the entire metaseries?

I'd assume if I inserted more filler than Detective Conan and Inuyasha, your ratings of series like Evangelion, Alita and Berserk would decrease heavily. (Not gonna comment on how it would worsen LotGH since I never watched much of it.)

Like, I hate Detective Conan and Inuyasha to the point that I use them both as examples of series ruined by slow ass filler episodes and chapters, but I'd be lying if I said I never enjoyed them. (Granted, I was about 13-14 at the time that I dropped Inuyasha before rereading it years later to laugh at it, and I would read the end of Conan just because it had moments of quality at some points)
 

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Kenshi said:
Don't you think you're giving the Pokemon arcs rather high ratings considering that most episodes that don't amount to evolutions or party changes being repetitive filler is a recurrent problem in the entire metaseries?
I'd give some leeway for Kanto and Orange Islands since they at least tried to be their own thing rather than just an advertisement for the games. Filler's the main reason Advanced ended up being rated significantly below that, with D/P being difficult to rate when it has some of the best elements of the franchise, yet some of the most bloated filler too. I guess I could have rated them lower but, considering the target audience, I'd give it some slight generosity.
 

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Well, that's the reason I asked you to rate YGO as well, and you don't appear to give shit arcs like Noah (which at least explored Kaiba's backstory for those who didn't read the Death-T events in the manga) or other gay fillers much slack for the same reason you're tolerant towards Pokemon. Technically Yu-Gi-Oh! started as a horror/superhero manga for teenagers, but it clearly devolved into weekly episodic chapters with some bigger arcs (most of them card game related) even prior to the Duel Monsters anime. And unlike Pokemon at least the arcs have a sense of prelude to the arrival of the main villain, struggles against them, reveals of backstories, conflict and resolution. (Regardless of how much the drama falls flat when you take the part about card game tournaments being related to :zorc and the ancient past seriously) As opposed to Pokemon which is just making Team Rocket blast off as many times as possible while evolving Pokemon who are deemed relevant enough to evolve, and losing leagues after hundreds of episodes of hype and then resetting levels and starting over in a new region, ad nauseum. YGO DM is obviously shit when you apply critical lenses to it, but it's at least more entertaining than over a hundred episodes of Johto filler that amount to nothing much (most of Ash's ace Pokemon aren't even from Johto), let alone AG, (most of) DP or *shudder* BW and SM.
 

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As you said, YGO was originally a far higher age rating than the typical target audience of Pokemon (Weekly Shonen Jump being targeted more towards children in the double digits and teens with the manga still having some deaths violent for a kid's manga and some level of suggestive content iirc, compared to Game Freak doing all they can to get the Pokemon games and any licensed products as low an age rating as possible), and even the later arcs of the anime seem to generally have darker subject matter or events than the Pokemon anime. I concede I could lower the scores though since I didn't put much thought into the ones for that series.
 

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YGO didn't retain many adult elements after maybe the first appearance of Bakura though. I can't really call Dark Magician Girl or Mai visibly showing cleavage something that makes the manga suitable for adults when considering the sheer amount of resolve hax/bullshit drawing techniques and childish friendship themes, especially when DMG and Mai's slutty outfits were retained in the anime. And the anime as a whole is still for 8-11 year olds even with the darker themes, hence there being less blood than Skypiea One Piece (which had more people zapped than cut or stabbed really).

I see that you changed the ratings. I wasn't trying to force you to, but I did see a bit of a double standard when you were rating Johto higher than a 4 or so despite it just being boring filler 75% of the time.
 

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Nah, you didn't GASLIGHT force me into it, though it's hard to not notice the double standard as YGO does create quite a blurring of the lines for how much leeway you can give to shows when it comes to demographics (not to mention that, on reflection, the earlier Pokemon seasons did teeter the line of being fully child-friendly when considering things like the infamous beach episode).
 

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How manipulative would you say I actually am (and perhaps some other users on here and on previous forums like Shinden and Infinity)? :troll

I know it's pretty hard to resist an :autism meme answer, but it'd be interesting to see your perspective on the GASLIGHTING potential of some of our most devious users :troll
 

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Enough to extend Skype calls for hours and force toothbrushes to become irrelevant :autism

For a more serious answer, I'd say you definitely do well in building strong arguments of persuasion and help offer more to reconsider on various topics. As far as actually "manipulating" people though, I'd say that's mainly due to :autism's easily influenced nature. Not sure if there's anyone from those forums I'd cite as genuinely manipulative, at least not in the sense of Mount JoJo's accusations.
 

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Yeah, I was honestly as shocked as I was amused by :autism 's accusations when the only people I can be said to have "manipulated" would be family for easy money and assistance, and everyone does that to an extent. Yoshit would be shocked at some of the lies drug dealers/addicts and actual con artists can come up with, considering those people can rip off autistic dullards easier than you and I could flip a quarter :alex2

Speaking of :autism , did you ever see the red flags for his eventual Chris-Chan esque meltdown/ousting? We all knew he was unstable, but the extent to which he loved to cope with his mountains of issues by blaming others was honestly beyond my imagination. It was good for laughs, but damn, if you literally need to blame someone you bothered endlessly on Skype for your lack of motivation to brush your teeth you really should be locked in an asylum for many years. It's pretty funny he uses terms like sociopath/psychopath to describe me when the most narcissistic, self-serving cope for your problems is to never take any responsibility so your fragile ego isn't cracked.
 

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I think the biggest red flag to a line being drawn was in the sheer repetitiveness of the cycle as there'd often be a case of him starting drama with another user, getting banned, returning, rinse and repeat until 2016, not to mention the lack of responsibility that could be seen when it came to how he managed his forums. Perhaps the most striking case for me was I think the one he attempted I think around a few months prior to his ban here when I agreed to help him out with his forum (the one prior to Planet Vegeta), in which he placed the task of coding to me despite my coding skills being mediocre at best rather than find someone more suited for the job or simply do what he wanted with his forum. I felt generous enough to at least help him, but the lack of input from his part combined with him simply abandoning it for the next thing not long after made it apparent how stuck he was in the cycle of loading his responsibilities onto others.
I believe I was on various breaks during his more notorious cases such as the second cousin matter, so I didn't receive the full picture on some matters until far later than they happened, though they further paint quite the obvious picture.
 

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With the amount of time he wasted on rationalizing his failures so that he can have other people shoulder the burden of responsiblity, he could have been a fucking journalist and made infinitely more money than the $9 an hour or whatever he can make in the lowest level entry jobs he has. He has no talent at all, and wasted what little vestige of it he had. I didn't mind him coming back 6 months ago but he's probably better off never posting on forums again.

But yeah, I knew he always had issues, and that every cycle was being constantly repeated in a never ending hamster on the wheel routine. But after I literally told him to shut up and ignore Ougi/Accel's taunts, and after we came to an agreement that we wouldn't post the shit talking logs (whether they were mine or his), I was just done with his bullshit when he exploded AGAIN and just took our sympathies for granted. What then surpassed my expectations was how much he could twist things so he can make up and convince himself of his bullshit victim narrative. Democrats see a lot of success brainwashing black and brown people into believing they're huge victims, but this was a whole new level of deflecting self-responsibility. The NAACP would be proud, if Yoshit's rants were instead about hating the white man for all that he's done to the African diaspora :alex2

Speaking of dysfunctional fat fucks though, what do you think provoked P's hilarious, illogical heel turn to that Berniebro SJW meme he became? I still search his bullshit on Discord sometimes to laugh lol.
 

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The only explanation I can really think of would be being influenced by the mainstream media's narratives or people in his life. It's pretty difficult to pin down when he was quite certain in his position on the right prior and usually the reverse of P's turn tends to be far more common when exposed to evidence such as statistics, comparative cases, etc.
 

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Remember when P123 argued that black people are bred to be completely stupid because the ones who were taught to read got killed 300 years ago? Then remember how he'd use the race card constantly, say we were racist and homophobic if we use words like nigga/nigger and faggot in casual ways? Then consider THIS post:

fag123 a few years ago said:
5) Liberals are actually just as racist as conservatives. They think all other races are incapable of meeting the standards of the white man and believe they have to cheat the system to gives others a chance. It's insanity. They think black people can't get IDs, don't know how to use the internet and are just all around incompetent. The Liberals are the most outwardly racist people I know of, yet promote they are not. Being a liberal is the definition of hypocrisy.

:ha :ha :ha :ha

He literally became the very thing he hated. Imagine if we were playing PC police with "fag" and pronouns bullshit and started endorsing third and fourth wave feminism?

How you can become MORE retarded (he was already pretty dumb) from searching up expert opinions is beyond me. Not considering homosexuality or transsexualism to be mental diseases is one thing, what he does is another ball game.
 

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If :p123's statements didn't have a very unique kind of stupidity to them, you'd think he'd been sent to Room 101 from 1984 for "re-education" with just how much of a 180 it was :ha.
 

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P is fucking crazy. Seeing idiots like him makes me wish even more that Trump wins so that their socialist, PC, far-left bigotry ridden fairytale land crumbles forever.
 

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Captain Cadaver said:
Kira is one of the best villains in JoJo, as well as within the high tier of anime/manga villains in general. From his introduction alone, it becomes clear how he differentiates from past villains in JoJo and Shonen in general. He has no real megalomaniacal plan nor makes himself imposing, instead just wanting to live a quiet life despite his urges for murder due to his hand fetish making that impossible. There are a few things that stick out as questionable about his actions though, such as why did he consider it a good idea to start talking to his "girlfriend" and partially revealing it when he was buying a sandwich despite his secretive nature? Also, for someone wanting to remove all evidence and never raise suspicion, why did he consider it a good idea to keep his fingernails in labelled jars and make meticulous diary entries on them?
He was at his most interesting during his time hiding as Kosaku as he struggled to enact on his urges and showed new sides of himself in how he subconsciously started caring about Shinobu (also, pretty funny how he was Chad enough to technically cuck the real Kosaku without trying), though it's a shame these feelings towards Shinobu never blossomed into something that could act as a character flaw or a source of conflict later down the line.
Overall, Kira is one of the best examples of how to craft a unique villain in anime/manga as well as how to make a small scale villain just as, if not more, threatening than some world dominating supervillain. Despite this, there are a fair few flaws to his actions that he really should've considered, making Patrick Bateman from American Psycho essentially a better version of Kira.

7.5/10

I always assumed that Kira a bit got cocky and arrogant over the year since he started killing and the fact he got a stand that blows anything to nonexistance plus sheer heart attack. Besides that tho I think Kira is one the best jojo villains, hes top 3 imo.
 

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What do you think made Toyotaro's writing so much worse in the Moro arc? If anything, with how much less he has to rush the manga now that he doesn't have to worry about keeping up with the anime to a degree (the fact that the anime and manga run side by side ruined the pacing of the ToP in the anime), you'd think his writing would get better. But somehow his writing breaks new records of bad with most consecutive chapters, to the extent that Mengly GAINZ Pseudo UI Roshi is looking like good writing by comparison. Why do you think this is the case? Could it be Toriyama allowing Toyotaro to have too much freedom, or Toyotaro just dragging the arc out instead of, you know, just doing filler chapters akin to the cast playing a racing game or expanding on that Future Pilaf foreshadowing if he needs to buy time for when the next arc is slated to start. UI Senzu Eating Planet Merger Moro is too stupid even for DBS memes.
 

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