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Kenshi said:
I'm sure Diavolo's plot armor would kick in ff he ever fought Fugo just like when he fought that metal guy and managed to survive having all the iron drained out of his bloodstream as well as scissors popping out of vital parts :punk

Jojo humans are obviously more durable than irl humans :giraffe
 

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Just passing by to say I have signed up with Disney+ a couple weeks ago and now can watch the entirety of The Clone Wars show and The Mandalorian :panties

I also got all 10 Star Wars movies. Too bad they never finished the Sequel Trilogy…

Thoughts on Disney+? Have you signed or considered signing?
 

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My first-cousin once-removed has a Disney+ account. I may add another profile on her's if I feel tempted to rewatch TCW or critique the new Disney Star Wars series, though wouldn't sign up myself as I'm against financially supporting a company that ranges from having no respect to the fans at worst and hoping they'll praise mediocrity at best.
 

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Haven't seen the film or read the book beyond summaries and a few scenes. From what I've seen though, the book seems to be the better version since it questioning if some people can be rehabilitated is more interesting than what's essentially the protagonist pulling a 180 through torture.
 

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Captain Cadaver said:
wouldn't sign up myself as I'm against financially supporting a company that ranges from having no respect to the fans at worst and hoping they'll praise mediocrity at best.

I thought the same, but turns out there's fairly good content in it. Disney's material ain't half bad.
 

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Why do you think Tracetaro has never incorporated the concept of S-Cells into the Super manga despite working with Toriyama? Like, he could have explained that Zamasu forcibly switching minds with Galu caused the S-Cells in his body to reset to pre-Namek levels to explain how Galu's body could now receive Zenkais under his control, among other things.
 

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Probably due to there not being a good opportunity to exposit it. As forced as some explanations in Super are, they're still to an extent that it makes for the characters to reveal them (eg. Galu having to explain Vegeta's bursts to both Trunks and Shin who are somewhat dunces when it comes to battle tactics). Such reveals would seem natural compared to Black providing a university lecture on Saiyan biology.
 

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Narration could be used instead of Black to deliver the information though.
 

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I agree, though it seems as though Toyotaro has an aversion to relying on narration in the same way mangaka like Togashi or Araki do for explanations, bar montages of events. Makes some level of sense with DB's style, considering the only time Toriyama forced in a narration to explain a mechanic rather than a prologue/epilogue to events was about Vegeta losing his will to fight against Freeza.
 

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Toriyama also doesn't use flashbacks much either, only having used them briefly in the Saiyan arc when Galu explained the Kaioken and when he remembered what Grandpa Gohan and Kami told him. But while they were overused to the detriment of series like OP and Naruto, I don't see why Toyotaro doesn't use flashbacks and narration more often than AT did since he does everything worse than Toriyama anyway :troll2
 

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Didn't want to make a separate thread for this, so I'll just ask you (anybody else can answer me if they want). I'm currently watching HxH. How the hell did Machi and Nobunaga sense Gon and Killua following them when Hisoka didn't notice Gon at all during the Hunter Exam? Isn't Zetsu supposed to give off 0 presence?
 

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Hisoka later displayed a similar feat of sensing Kalluto despite him being in a state of Zetsu. Him not sensing Gon was most likely due to him treating the Exam with zero seriousness due to there being no genuine challenges to him bar Togari giving him a minor wound to the extent he never really felt a need to be on guard and only ever used his Nen through enhancing his cards with Shu, as opposed to Nobunaga and Machi needing to be on guard when they could be attacked by Nen experts (the Chain User included) at any moment.
 

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Another question. Is it assumed that all characters post Yorknew arc are using Ken when fighting in hand to hand combat? It's just weird that Gon has his Ren up but still gets beaten around by opponents without a displayed aura like Genthru and Knuckle, unless it's just not visually displayed.
 

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It's to be naturally assumed most likely, given how these are expert Nen users. It likely wasn't shown both for drawing time and animation reasons respectively in both continuities since showcasing the aura each time can be, particularly when the anime doesn't show Hisoka's cards as constantly being enveloped with Nen through Shu despite his constant use of it. I'd say the only reason that there's such a drastic difference between Nen being constantly shown visually from Greed Island and onwards compared to Heaven's Arena and Yornew was likely due to it being a new element there that the audience needed to be familiarised with, whereas Greed Island only needed to make the more advanced techniques apparent.
 

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True. Although, maybe using Ren doesn't mean you surpass your opponents that aren't using it. Wasn't the Zoldyck security guard only able to open 1 testing gate while using Nen as opposed to Killua opening all 3 without it?
 

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He did, though Zebro wasn't suggested to have much capability in Nen beyond a very basic display of Enhancement, so it'd probably be a stretch to assume a seemingly far more experienced Gon could be fought against evenly by an opponent who only used Nen now and again, considering even some high tier characters above the likes of Genthru such as Hisoka or Machi could be superficially damaged by far weaker versions of Gon or Killua when not on guard.
 

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I can buy that explanation but if inexperience has to do with it, shouldn't Killua have been able to overpower Zushi since the latter was equally inexperienced in it?

As for my other question, based on your explanation it can be pretty much assumed that characters are constantly distributing aura throughout their body parts when they attack, even if it's not visually seen?
 

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