Since the bandwagon for this has appeared...

[Papasmurf]

Do you expect the DBH anime to be even worse than Super? I know I do.

 

[Captain Cadaver]

Easily. Whilst a cashgrab, Super at least attempted to fit itself into the canon and make it's own story. Meanwhile, DBH is just there for giving characters new forms and whatever "plot" it has will have more asinine time resets than the FT Arc and not contribute anything whatsoever to the core series.

Not even going to bother watching the series beyond what clips Youtube brings my way.

 

[GreatSaiyaman123]

Have you read any of the novelizations of the Star Wars movies?

 

[Captain Cadaver]

Only for the original film and The Phantom Menace, and neither seemed that different from the movies besides the latter offering some additional introspection to kid Anakin (and not enough to make his character any different). From what I've heard though, the Revenge of the Sith novelisation vastly improves plot and character consistency though.

 

[Future Warrior]

Spoiler

Thoughts on this character?

 

[Captain Cadaver]

As far as design goes, it's alright I guess. It has enough similarities to typical Saiyan attire to make not seem out of place, whilst having enough visual differences to the Freeza era armour the Saiyans wore to establish them as from the past. This is what :cabba should've been instead of the beta cuck we've got. Definitely one of the best designs and pieces of art Toriyama's made since Super began at least.
As far as personality and actual writing goes, he'll most likely be terrible seeing as how he's the generic amnesiac archetype.

 

[GreatSaiyaman123]

Who do you believe to be the best character out of Rey, Poe and Finn?

 

[Captain Cadaver]

All of them are completely contradictive messes, though Poe is the least of them due to not being perfect in everything like Ma-Rey Sue and not having his character arc hindered by an unnecessary character's backwards logic like Finn was in TLJ.

 

[GreatSaiyaman123]

And who do you believe to be the most well written character of the sequels?

Who is the best character for you from the original trio? And from the prequels trio?

 

[Captain Cadaver]

And who do you believe to be the most well written character of the sequels?

Kylo Ren is the only character with much development or complexity, so he easily wins by default.

Who is the best character for you from the original trio? And from the prequels trio?

For the originals, definitely Han since he was far more unconventional and well developed than the everyman Luke was in the first two films and didn't have his relevancy diminished in Episode V like Leia. My only problem with him is that such was the opposite in RotJ, where he got no major development like Luke did nor shining moments like Leia killing Jabba.

For the prequel trio, assuming you mean Anakin, Obi-Wan and Padme, then Obi-Wan by default. He may have gone pretty stupid in not figuring out the link between the Clones and the Separatists, as well as not displaying the Jedi Temple records to the Senate, but at least he wasn't whining about sand or reduced to a generic housewife dying of a broken heart (sure, Palpatine may have been involved in the latter, but the film does a poor job at presenting the evidence for it). Taking into account The Clone Wars, Obi-Wan's storylines within it were also easily more compelling than any Padme received and about equal to Anakin's gradual disillusion with the Jedi throughout, such as the arc where he fakes his death to go undercover with a group of bounty hunters or his constant conflict with his attraction towards Duchess Satine and rage at Maul.

 

[GreatSaiyaman123]

When to you believe Goku's character started to get badly written?

Why you think TLJ is the worst Star Wars movie? What are some good things about it for you?

 

[Captain Cadaver]

When to you believe Goku's character started to get badly written?

Freeza Arc. He was treat as a plot device instead of a character in this arc, only being allowed to integrate with the main plot when the driving forces of the arc that were Vegeta, Gohan and Kuririn couldn't do something, not to mention his speech as a Super Saiyan being completely out of character.

Why you think TLJ is the worst Star Wars movie? What are some good things about it for you?

It raises extreme oversights about previous lore due to it's new additions (eg. why don't all battles consist of Light Speed Kamikazes by a single crew member to minimise casualties?), completely rewrites/destroys it's old cast (Luke trying to kill Ben for having slight Dark Side tendencies despite having tried to save his Youngling killing dad), tries too hard to subvert expectations to the point of not feeling like a Star Wars story and, most of all, the blatant SJW with all the female characters being portrayed in a positive light (it's new inclusions of Holdo and Rose being purely for inclusivity and tumblr pandering) whilst all the male characters are portrayed as being either unstable (Luke, Kylo) or their choices proven to be misguided due to a contrivance/poor reasoning (Poe, Finn). I could go into more detail, but that wouldn't leave much for the Rate Star Wars thread....whenever it gets bumped.

Only positive I had beyond superficial elements such as practical effects and cinematography was Kylo Ren easily being one of the most compelling characters within the films and having a pretty good internal conflict. However, even that is ruined due to Snoke's revelation that the Light Side will rise to face the Dark through some conduit such as Rey, meaning the entire conflict of the Force is now meaningless due to being completely fatalistic rather than controlled by character motivations and personal actions.

 

[GreatSaiyaman123]

whenever it gets bumped.

Don't worry, i'm planning on bumping it by the time Solo is released.

 

[GreatSaiyaman123]

I've bumped the Star Wars thread, FYI.

What do you believe to be the best order to watch the Star Wars movies?

 

[Captain Cadaver]

Original trilogy, then prequels, then ignore the Disney films.

 

[ahill1]

DB vs DBZ* -- which do you prefer? I think I read you saying you prefer DB, but can't really remember that much.

*There's no really Z (except in the anime and Viz), but it's still a convenient way to separate both.

 

[GreatSaiyaman123]

Original trilogy, then prequels, then ignore the Disney films.

Disney films? Disney never made Star Wars movies, only parodies

But seriously, what do you think of orders like Machete Order? You know, that one with the prequels between Episodes V and VI and that skips TPM.

Asking this because i want to introduce the franchise to someone, but no one is willing to argue something as futile as the order you should watch the movies

 

[Captain Cadaver]

DB vs DBZ* -- which do you prefer? I think I read you saying you prefer DB, but can't really remember that much.

Already mentioned it in this thread, but yes, DB >> Z for reasons already mentioned in the Arc Rating/Review thread. Only arc of Z I like as a whole is the Saiyan Arc, whereas I find at least 3 arcs of DB to have similar quality.

But seriously, what do you think of orders like Machete Order? You know, that one with the prequels between Episodes V and VI and that skips TPM.

Asking this because i want to introduce the franchise to someone, but no one is willing to argue something as futile as the order you should watch the movies

I know of that order and approve of it, though I'd consider the order of them watching the films only important if they're one of the minimal percentage of humans unaware of the "I am your father" twist.

 

[GreatSaiyaman123]

What do you think of the argument that Luke trying to kill Ben isn't out of character because "people make mistakes"?

 

[Captain Cadaver]

Very weak when considering all he tried to do for Vader in RotJ.