SSJG vs SSJ3

[SSJ2]

So looking back to the U6 arc, it's generally accepted that Super Saiyan 1 is roughly around 10% of SSJB's total power. Going by that, it doesn't leave a ton of room to fit in SSJ2, 3, and God. But when you look at the exhibition match with Toppo, surely the difference between SSJ3 and God is presented as being larger than that?

SSJG Goku vs Toppo was already at the level of the Gods of Destruction according to this guy:

Considering how Toppo was looking down on SSJ3 Goku and none of the Gods were remotely impressed by it, shouldn't the gap between SSJ3 and God be larger than it is shown to be during U6?

 

[Future Warrior]

Goku's statement presents the idea that the difference between Super Saiyan God and Super Saiyan 3 is larger than the difference between Super Saiyan 3 and his base form.

 

[SSJ2]

Yea, I'd have to agree. I guess I could still make it work on that scale.

SSJ: 10
SSJ2: 15
SSJ3: 20
SSJG: 50
SSJB: 100

Still, it doesn't seem suggested that SSJ3 became that weak. Goku was arrogant as hell after turning SSJ3 against Trunks. Would seem strange if SSJ3 was only 1.33x stronger than SSJ2.

 

[Future Warrior]

I'm arguing in favor of God being astronomically stronger than SSj3. Don't forget that ''100% of Blue'' is how much power Goku is using when completing the form, so you'll also have somehow believe SSj1 is 10% of Complete Blue. That scale doesn't work.

 

[Pyro]

Just make Blue a bigger multiplier and find a workaround for the tournament power, like it was just Blue's usable power at the time or something.

 

[Future Warrior]

That doesn't explain just God being vastly stronger than 3, not just Blue.

 

[GSM123]

Yea, I'd have to agree. I guess I could still make it work on that scale.

SSJ: 10
SSJ2: 15
SSJ3: 20
SSJG: 50
SSJB: 100

Still, it doesn't seem suggested that SSJ3 became that weak. Goku was arrogant as hell after turning SSJ3 against Trunks. Would seem strange if SSJ3 was only 1.33x stronger than SSJ2.

Vegeta was fairly arrogant with Cui and people above him with the same advantage.

Maybe…
SSJ: 10
SSJ2: 15
SSJ3: 30
SSJG: 150
SSJB: 200

 

[SSJ2]

Yea, I'd have to agree. I guess I could still make it work on that scale.

SSJ: 10
SSJ2: 15
SSJ3: 20
SSJG: 50
SSJB: 100

Still, it doesn't seem suggested that SSJ3 became that weak. Goku was arrogant as hell after turning SSJ3 against Trunks. Would seem strange if SSJ3 was only 1.33x stronger than SSJ2.

Vegeta was fairly arrogant with Cui and people above him with the same advantage.

Maybe…
SSJ: 10
SSJ2: 15
SSJ3: 30
SSJG: 150
SSJB: 200

This is good. Congratulations.

 

[Pocket-Gog~]

Yea, I'd have to agree. I guess I could still make it work on that scale.

SSJ: 10
SSJ2: 15
SSJ3: 20
SSJG: 50
SSJB: 100

SSJ4: 4000

 

[Pyro]

God being 75% of Blue doesn't explain the Goku Black fight. Jesus Christ, think for a second. Stupid idiots.

 

[SSJ2]

Lol even the Hit fight makes it apparent that Blue is a much bigger boost than that. Hit's power up was strong enough that SSJG wouldn't have been effective against his timeskip.

SSJB was then strong enough to break through the timeskip and more or less one shot him. That's no 1.33x boost.

Hell, in the future arc Galu goes on about how Blue brings out such enormous power that it's hard to maintain. God should be similarly difficult if it was that close to Blue's maximum output.

 

[Future Warrior]

Well Goku harnessed the full power of Blue at that specific moment. Without the use of bursts or mastering it, they are left with just a speck of what the true power of that form entails.

SSj Blue Vegeta (Drained) - 10
SSj God Goku - 20
SSj Blue Goku - 40
Completed SSj Blue Goku - 100

Something like that? No?

 

[GSM123]

Yea, I'd have to agree. I guess I could still make it work on that scale.

SSJ: 10
SSJ2: 15
SSJ3: 20
SSJG: 50
SSJB: 100

Still, it doesn't seem suggested that SSJ3 became that weak. Goku was arrogant as hell after turning SSJ3 against Trunks. Would seem strange if SSJ3 was only 1.33x stronger than SSJ2.

Vegeta was fairly arrogant with Cui and people above him with the same advantage.

Maybe…
SSJ: 10
SSJ2: 15
SSJ3: 30
SSJG: 150
SSJB: 200

This is good. Congratulations.

So 5% is a good spot for “less than 10%”?

Such a shame that I actually have SSJG as a thousand fold boost since I have DBS Goku = Z Goku

God being 75% of Blue doesn't explain the Goku Black fight. Jesus Christ, think for a second. Stupid idiots.

How not? Black fits as 80-90, and Merged Zamasu is a 100. Don’t cry about fusion boosts. Easy.

Lol even the Hit fight makes it apparent that Blue is a much bigger boost than that. Hit's power up was strong enough that SSJG wouldn't have been effective against his timeskip.

SSJB was then strong enough to break through the timeskip and more or less one shot him. That's no 1.33x boost.

Hell, in the future arc Galu goes on about how Blue brings out such enormous power that it's hard to maintain. God should be similarly difficult if it was that close to Blue's maximum output.

So SSJG should be closer to SSJ3 (Or maybe SSJ1, Base Hit’s timeskip was slightly better on God that FP Hit was on Blue) than it is to Blue?

 

[Pyro]

That's way too tiny. A suppressed Merged Zamasu was thrashing SSJB Goku and Vegeta.

 

[GSM123]

That's way too tiny. A suppressed Merged Zamasu was thrashing SSJB Goku and Vegeta.

Maybe it is for a fusion boost, but for a fight it works just fine. Specially when stamina (Both from SSJB and previous battles) are taken into account.

 

[SSJ2]

Lol so you think CSSJB is a 1.1x multiplier over Blue?

 

[Dagon]

Some of you are reading too much into it, trying to strong-arm distinct meanings out of very generalized quotes.

SSJB is a SSJG that turns SSJ. Thus 50x SSJG.

SSJG is below Ikari Broly, who is 10x base Broly, who had surpassed SSJ Vegeta to some degree. SSJG should be at best 10x SSJ3 and at worst 2x SSJ3.

If you follow 50/2/4:

Base: 1
SSJ: 50
SSJ2: 100
SSJ3: 400
SSJG(lowball): 800
SSJG(highball): 4,000
SSJB(lowball): 40,000
SSJB(highball): 200,000

Such a shame that I actually have SSJG as a thousand fold boost since I have DBS Goku = Z Goku

Which is factually wrong.

 

[GSM123]

Lol so you think CSSJB is a 1.1x multiplier over Blue?

There’s no multiplier for just solving a stamina problem.

Which is factually wrong.

Nah, but showing the evidence would’ve been nice.

 

[Future Warrior]

Some of you are reading too much into it, trying to strong-arm distinct meanings out of very generalized quotes.

SSJB is a SSJG that turns SSJ. Thus 50x SSJG.

In regards to the anime perhaps, but not the manga. SSj God is stronger than 10% of Blue, meaning it's most likely that full power Blue is less than 10x stronger than God.

 

[Dagon]

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