Super Android 13 vs Android 16

[p123]

Who wins?

 

[Six Trails]

Android #16. Even ignoring the Daizenshuu (which is fine), I don't see any reason for Super #13 to be the stronger of the two.

 

[Pyro]

Android 16 throws two Rocket Punches and turns Super 13 into a pile of dehydrated piss.

 

[p123]

Why does everyone on this site shit on the guidebooks for majority of things and then all of a sudden, for this particular character, they go guidebook crazy?

Super Android 13 is stated to be Gero's mightiest artificial android. He's clearly the movie's version of Cell.

Movie > Guidebook.

Considering that 16 is definitely created in that timeline, this should be ultimate proof that Super Android 13 is superior to Android 16. Says it right there in the beginning of the movie.

 

[Pyro]

16 ain't anywhere in the movie.

 

[p123]

You can't get to 17 and 18 without going through 16 first bud.

 

[Pyro]

Why? If 16 isn't activated, he doesn't count.

 

[p123]

Lol, in what world? Oh, I'm going to create my new Super Android 13 to be the strongest of them all. Except for that 16, yea except for 16. You do realize Super Android 13 is basically Cell right?

 

[Evil Vegeta]

I don't think the main timeline hiarachy differs in the movie. Piccolo is above the Super Saiyans, who are comparable to the Androids they fought. Super #13 stomped Piccolo with ease, which is something a #16/Cell like being would do at the minimum.

I think Super #13 is comparable to #16. Could even be stronger. I think Super #13 has a better chance at ending #16 with a S.S Deadly Bomber than #16 ending him with a Hell's Flash.

 

[Pyro]

Android 16 was on par with Cell at one point. Excellent.

 

[Void]

I really don't see why 13 would be stronger than 16. He is on par with him at best.

Show me Super 13 tanking the Light Grenade like Cell and I'll sway.

 

[p123]

I agree EV. That's fair and balanced analysis. No reason for the timeline to be all that different here.

Here's how this plays out. There is no Cell. As Piccolo starts to lose to 17, Krillen pulls the trigger and stops the androids with the remote. Then continue on with the movie. Makes sense. No issues there. Except, perhaps there was no 16, who knows though?

You have a point Paladin, feats wise, what does he have?

But make no mistake, this debate is not over yet.

Super Android 13 is literally stated to be the mightiest of artificial humans in the movie, that counts for a hell of a lot. That guidebook reference is trash in comparison.

 

[p123]

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[ahill1]

But was the movie taking #16 into account? Or only movie's androids?

 

[Pyro]

The movie showed #17 and #18 as well as Gero. Why not include #16? I get not showing #19 since he would've been destroyed by that point, but #16 should've been included if he was part of that scenario?

 

[withheldforprivacy]

I agree EV. That's fair and balanced analysis. No reason for the timeline to be all that different here.

Here's how this plays out. There is no Cell. As Piccolo starts to lose to 17, Krillin pulls the trigger and stops the androids with the remote. Then continue on with the movie. Makes sense. No issues there. Except, perhaps there was no 16, who knows though?

You have a point Paladin, feats wise, what does he have?

But make no mistake, this debate is not over yet.

Super Android 13 is literally stated to be the mightiest of artificial humans in the movie, that counts for a hell of a lot. That guidebook reference is trash in comparison.

Movie 7 takes place in the timeline Trunks created before being killed by Cell. It is not mentioned, but it makes perfect sense.

 

[p123]

The only thing we see from the Present Androids is 17 killing Gero. Considering that these are indeed the Present Androids, any reason for the timeline to play out any other way?

The way I see it, everything is the same, except there is no Cell. Krillen deactivates the Androids and that's that. Should be no difference between the timelines.

We didn't see 19 either, doesn't mean he wasn't there. This is the present timeline.

 

[Pyro]

I agree EV. That's fair and balanced analysis. No reason for the timeline to be all that different here.

Here's how this plays out. There is no Cell. As Piccolo starts to lose to 17, Krillin pulls the trigger and stops the androids with the remote. Then continue on with the movie. Makes sense. No issues there. Except, perhaps there was no 16, who knows though?

You have a point Paladin, feats wise, what does he have?

But make no mistake, this debate is not over yet.

Super Android 13 is literally stated to be the mightiest of artificial humans in the movie, that counts for a hell of a lot. That guidebook reference is trash in comparison.

Movie 7 takes place in the timeline Trunks created before being killed by Cell. It is not mentioned, but it makes perfect sense.

Explain.

 

[p123]

No, I think you are wrong Withheld. In that timeline, Trunks deactivated the Future Androids. This is clearly not that timeline, as Trunks is with Goku and Co. This timeline has no Cell and Super Android 13 instead. Krillen deactivated the androids while Piccolo was fighting them on the island.

 

[Evil Vegeta]

I don't actually see the point in showing #16. The sequence was there to show that Gero's hatred continued on with his new creations that were hidden below his lab. #16 wasn't around to see #17 crush Gero, so showing him in that scene seems unnecessary.