The Ultimate Power Level List

[SSJ2]

Good points Vic.

And yes ahill that's the point.

I'm trying to play with the 24/22/20/18 Gap for Vegeta, Zarbon, Dodoria and Cui.

I hate Cui being 90% of Dodoria I feel like Zarbon and Dodoria should be beasts.

Honestly I don't have an issue with Cui being that high. He and Vegeta were actually out on the battlefields getting their hands dirty, while Dodoria and Zarbon were slacking off at Freeza's side. Perhaps their powers had even deteriorated somewhat from being inactive for so long. Either way, with the implication that both Cui and Vegeta were progressing at a fast rate, I think 90% is ok

 

[GreatSaiyaman123]

I don't necessarily have an issue with Dodoria being close to Vegeta. We know Ki sensing is fundamental on fights, and Dodoria not only lacks this but also has ben rusting for years. Not to mention Vegeta was strained as fuck from holding Dodoria and blasting him.

 

[Victorious]

What makes u think Gohan's calm state post Dende zenkai is above 1st form Freeza and Vegeta?

 

[GreatSaiyaman123]

Why wouldn't he? Vegeta was completely powerless against Freeza to a point he can't even budge him with a off guard blast, but thinks luck is turning on their side when Gohan power ups.

 

[Victorious]

O dunno really. But having him at 1 million seems much. Didn't 2nd form Freeza tank Gohan's blasts too? Freeza there is maybe 1.2 million or so.

 

[GreatSaiyaman123]

It wasn't really a tank. Freeza says it hurt him and decided to power up after Gohan's assault. He just recovered pretty quick from the blasts.

 

[p123]

Yea, Vegeta seems pretty upbeat after seeing Gohan power up. Also, Gohan is going right after Freeza to start Round 2 with renewed vigor until Piccolo shows up.

What did you think Gohan was getting ready to do? Get destroyed? He looks ready for battle.

 

[Victorious]

It wasn't really a tank. Freeza says it hurt him and decided to power up after Gohan's assault. He just recovered pretty quick from the blasts.

That's pre zenkaia Gohan.

 

[Victorious]

Yea, Vegeta seems pretty upbeat after seeing Gohan power up. Also, Gohan is going right after Freeza to start Round 2 with renewed vigor until Piccolo shows up.

What did you think Gohan was getting ready to do? Get destroyed? He looks ready for battle.

So u think Vegeta is now way below standard Gohan Huh? I just get the feeling only Piccolo blows out Vegeta. He and Freeza's battle seems like 2 Gods amoungst the boys.

 

[p123]

Yes. Someone shed light on this to me before. Way back. Look at Gohan's actions. He heals up and is ready to jump right back into battle. Vegeta is happy about their chances.

Gohan (Zenkai) >>> Vegeta >> Gohan

Unless you think Gohan is maintaining his rage boost the whole time, who knows though...

 

[GreatSaiyaman123]

That's pre zenkaia Gohan.

Post Zenkai Gohan never faced 2nd form Freeza though.

 

[Victorious]

No he's not raged up. Maybe his confidence is in his ability to rage though? I mean in rage he's practically as powerful as third form Freeza. But Piccolo weighted should be at least 1.5x Gohan IMO.

 

[Victorious]

That's pre zenkaia Gohan.

Post Zenkai Gohan never faced 2nd form Freeza though.

In the anime I do remember him, Vegeta, and Krillin all blast spamming him and he came out unscratched. And then Piccolo showed up.

 

[p123]

Piccolo can't be 1.5x him though. At least not his weighted self. If Piccolo never showed up, Gohan was ready to brawl. That makes that an impossibility.

Gohan enraged is much stronger than Piccolo. I think Gohan can hang with Freeza a bit, hell he's probably stronger than his previous enraged self. Look at the sequence, it wouldn't make sense unless Gohan can hold his own now.

In the manga, none of that happens and Gohan makes a beeline for Freeza.

 

[ahill1]

O dunno really. But having him at 1 million seems much. Didn't 2nd form Freeza tank Gohan's blasts too? Freeza there is maybe 1.2 million or so.

Freeza tanking Gohan [alongside the others] was filler.

 

[Victorious]

I'd like to see the manga panels of Gohan ready to brawl. Compare them to Gohan getting ready to brawl with Recoome. Because we know non enraged he was fodder to Recoome.

 

[p123]

That's a different situation though I believe, against recoome Vegeta is the lead and Gohan is providing supplementary Aid, in the situation with Frieza, Gohan is required to take the lead and Vegeta has proven that he is nowhere on freezes level

 

[Victorious]

How does Gohan's facial expressions and indicated confidence compare is the question.

 

[Six Trails]

Spoiler

I don't things would be looking any better if Gohan was still weaker than Vegeta...

 

[p123]

Thanks for posting that. Yep, Vegeta is essentially helpless. Gohan isn't enraged there but he's powering up in my opinion.

Questions I want answers to. What's Gohan thinking? Is he planning on taking Freeza right then and there?