Tier List (Manga)

[Animelover5487]

If you use ~ as a substitute for = (even-though it just means around in this case) then Kefla admitted inferiority to Gohan.

She did admit inferiority despite fighting Chadhan evenly. She said she just couldn't compete with U7 Saiyans, which also implies she's inferior to all 3 U7 Saiyans.

Oh yeah, I forgot that statement. More evidence of Kefla being below PSSJB tier.

 

[SIAD]

If you use ~ as a substitute for = (even-though it just means around in this case) then Kefla admitted inferiority to Gohan.

She did admit inferiority despite fighting Chadhan evenly. She said she just couldn't compete with U7 Saiyans, which also implies she's inferior to all 3 U7 Saiyans.

Oh yeah, I forgot that statement. More evidence of Kefla being below PSSJB tier.

Maybe Kefla believes that Goku and Vegeta have not yet shown all their power, perfectly believes that their true maxima are> Gohan Ultimate.

  Goku when using PSSJB Pseudo Kaioken, surpassed Gohan Ultimate. Perfectly Vegeta will use a power similar to that of Goku PSSJB Pseudo Kaioken, if he is faced with God Toppo.

 

[Pyro]

Yeah, I think she was just generalizing.

 

[Captain Cadaver]

, what do you think about swapping the Pride Troopers and the Trio De Danger's position in the list? Is it accurate enough?

Good. I like this.

 

[Pocket-Gog~]

Roshi not being at the top of this list makes it pointless. :mikey

 

[GSM123]

Roshi not being at the top of this list makes it pointless. :mikey

According to Prophet Appule's prophecy, :bitch is actually future Roshi after his manly GAINZ went too far.

 

[Pocket-Gog~]

Roshi not being at the top of this list makes it pointless. :mikey

According to Prophet Appule's prophecy, :bitch is actually future Roshi after his manly GAINZ went too far.

 

[SIAD]

Missed Kibito SSJ3 and .

 

[GSM123]

Missed Kibito SSJ3 and .

They are too strong to be measured with power scaling.

 

[Captain Cadaver]

Missed Kibito SSJ3 and .

They are too strong to be measured with power scaling.

And Lord :bitch isn't?

Don't make me send the inquisition for this heresy.

 

[GSM123]

And Lord :bitch isn't?

Don't make me send the inquisition for this heresy.

That's clearly his suppressed form bruh. From the episode where he fought Lord Appule and finger clicked him when he got serious.

 

[Captain Cadaver]

 

[GSM123]

Jiren (Initial) seemed to dominate Hit and Goku PSSJB together in the same or better way that Raditz did with Goku and Piccolo together. Then Hit used his technique to return to Jiren slow and could dodge without much trouble to the latter, until Jiren did a Power Up and overtook Hit extensively with his attack.

 Jiren (Power Up) >>>> Jiren (Initial) >>>> Goku PSSJB + Hit.

 Then Vados declared that Kefla LSSJ was the strongest character in the ring. As for the power of Kale LSSJ, I have it behind the PSSJB for the reasons that CC says. Therefore I have Kefla >>>>>>>>>>>>> Kale.

 Kefla LSSJ> Jiren (Power Up) >>>> Jiren (Initial) >>>> Goku PSSJB + Hit.

 In Manga 39, Jiren seems to have a tremendous invisible Power Up because Goku using the PSSJB Pseudo Kaioken was confident of defeating Jiren and Beerus was more impressed by Goku's power than the amazing power of Gohan. The latter equaled Kefla LSSJ. Even so, Jiren did not move after receiving a few punches from Goku PSSJB Pseudo Kaioken.

 Being so big the difference between Goku PSSJB Pseudo Kaioken and Goku PSSJB, I would say that that Pseudo Kaioken could be an equivalent between a Kaioken 2-20x on the PSSJB.

Jiren (Start of Chapter 39) >>>>> Goku PSSJB Pseudo Kaioken> / >> Gohan (Current) = Kefla LSSJ> Jiren (Power Up) >>>> Jiren (Initial) >>>> Goku PSSJB + Hit.

  At the end of Chapter 39 Jiren can not even see the movement of UI Goku, but still has a lot of confidence in defeating him. Then Krillin says that at last the 2 fight seriously, therefore UI Goku was going to face Jiren, but the first lost the UI state and we know what happened. I would say Jiren did a tremendous Third Power Up.

Jiren (End of Chapter 39) >> UI Goku (Initial) >>> Jiren (Start Chapter 39) >>>>> Goku PSSJB Pseudo Kaioken> / >> Gohan (Current) = Kefla LSSJ> Jiren (Power Up)> >>> Jiren (Initial) >>>> Goku PSSJB + Hit.

SIAD, do you think regular PSSJB Goku > Kefla/Gohan is possible? What do you think about Kuririn's statement?

 

[SIAD]

Jiren (Initial) seemed to dominate Hit and Goku PSSJB together in the same or better way that Raditz did with Goku and Piccolo together. Then Hit used his technique to return to Jiren slow and could dodge without much trouble to the latter, until Jiren did a Power Up and overtook Hit extensively with his attack.

 Jiren (Power Up) >>>> Jiren (Initial) >>>> Goku PSSJB + Hit.

 Then Vados declared that Kefla LSSJ was the strongest character in the ring. As for the power of Kale LSSJ, I have it behind the PSSJB for the reasons that CC says. Therefore I have Kefla >>>>>>>>>>>>> Kale.

 Kefla LSSJ> Jiren (Power Up) >>>> Jiren (Initial) >>>> Goku PSSJB + Hit.

 In Manga 39, Jiren seems to have a tremendous invisible Power Up because Goku using the PSSJB Pseudo Kaioken was confident of defeating Jiren and Beerus was more impressed by Goku's power than the amazing power of Gohan. The latter equaled Kefla LSSJ. Even so, Jiren did not move after receiving a few punches from Goku PSSJB Pseudo Kaioken.

 Being so big the difference between Goku PSSJB Pseudo Kaioken and Goku PSSJB, I would say that that Pseudo Kaioken could be an equivalent between a Kaioken 2-20x on the PSSJB.

Jiren (Start of Chapter 39) >>>>> Goku PSSJB Pseudo Kaioken> / >> Gohan (Current) = Kefla LSSJ> Jiren (Power Up) >>>> Jiren (Initial) >>>> Goku PSSJB + Hit.

  At the end of Chapter 39 Jiren can not even see the movement of UI Goku, but still has a lot of confidence in defeating him. Then Krillin says that at last the 2 fight seriously, therefore UI Goku was going to face Jiren, but the first lost the UI state and we know what happened. I would say Jiren did a tremendous Third Power Up.

Jiren (End of Chapter 39) >> UI Goku (Initial) >>> Jiren (Start Chapter 39) >>>>> Goku PSSJB Pseudo Kaioken> / >> Gohan (Current) = Kefla LSSJ> Jiren (Power Up)> >>> Jiren (Initial) >>>> Goku PSSJB + Hit.

SIAD, do you think regular PSSJB Goku > Kefla/Gohan is possible? What do you think about Kuririn's statement?

I really do not think that Goku PSSJB is superior to Gohan, since Jiren (Initial) seemed to dominate Goku PSSJB as well as Hit as Raditz did with Goku and Piccolo. Then Jiren made a good increase in power (Against Hit). Later Vados declared that Kefla LSSJ was the most powerful character in the ring. What I do think is that Goku PSSJB Pseudo Kaioken beat Kefla LSSJ.

  Kefla feeling inferior to the Saiyajins, probably because he did not expect Gohan to match her and suspects that Goku and Vegeta still do not show their true power. What was true in the case of Goku, for having the Pseudo Kaioken. Maybe Vegeta also surpasses Kefla LSSJ with another transformation, in case Toppo gets his God form.

 

[GSM123]

Just noticed i forgot Future Zamas. Where would you place him?

 

[Fantastische Hure]

Goku said even Trunks could take him, so maybe SSJ2 level?

 

[Captain Cadaver]

Probably at the bottom of SS3 tier. Goku said Trunks could beat him, but didn't imply it to be an outright stomp.

 

[GSM123]

I'm thinking about SSJ Tier for him. His attacks are barely hurting Goku.

 

[Captain Cadaver]

I'm thinking about SSJ Tier for him. His attacks are barely hurting Goku.

His attacks wore SSJ Galu down enough that he needed to rely on Trunks to make even the slightest retreat. It's also worth noting that Goku only powered down so low after he assumed Zamasu had gained a fatal injury, plus he still went SSG in the rematch, which even if assuming it was for safe measure is fairly telling on Zamasu at least being far above SSJ tier.

Whilst you could use SSB Vegetto against Merged Zamasu as a counter, it's not as strong a one when Goku's not the one with a direct time limit on his existence.

 

[Let's Go Fearless!]

It hurts me how Toyo disrespect Lord Zamasu completely unlike how Toei handled it better. :toei