Viz > Herms some times

Kyo

High Class Warrior
Donor
Joined
May 30, 2015
Messages
4,717
Legitimately speaking there are a few reasons he can't be sensed in my mind, one of the main things is Piccolo's cluelessness when face-to-face with him in the ring. Vegeta's line is part of it. It's worded to suggest that ordinarily they could "estimate" (whatever that means).
 

p123

Elite
Member
Joined
Oct 10, 2015
Messages
5,587
HAHAHA, that's a classic strategy of mine. If you irritate the poster enough to prove the his point via statement, he will be very motivated to prove you wrong and will grab you every statement you could ever want. Meanwhile I'm over here like yea bitch go fetch that shit. Haha.

But yea, Kibito and Shin were said to have no sensible ki at the Budokai. Fucking noobs don't know shit... Heehee
 

SSJ2

Zeta Elite
Staff member
Founder
Joined
Oct 12, 2014
Messages
65,753
Age
28
@ahill1 look what your lord and saviour just said about you.

Fucking noobs don't know shit... Heehee


It's ok man, you'll make it through this dark day. :gay2 :gay
 

p123

Elite
Member
Joined
Oct 10, 2015
Messages
5,587
He can prove his honor by posting the required statements. If he can actually find them that is...
 

SSJ2

Zeta Elite
Staff member
Founder
Joined
Oct 12, 2014
Messages
65,753
Age
28
Because there are none. :king

Kaiocunt and Kibitocunt not being able to be sensed is one of the most factual things in the manga.
 

SSJ2

Zeta Elite
Staff member
Founder
Joined
Oct 12, 2014
Messages
65,753
Age
28
Nobody cares about the cancer known as Super.
 

p123

Elite
Member
Joined
Oct 10, 2015
Messages
5,587
Yea when I was here last, I was more willing to let Super sway, but since I see what it has become, I don't give a fuck about anything non manga personally.
 

Let's Go Fearless!

Zeta Elite
25k
Joined
May 31, 2015
Messages
41,541
Age
25
p123 said:
Yea when I was here last, I was more willing to let Super sway, but since I see what it has become, I don't give a fuck about anything non manga personally.
It's canon and Viz translated its manga as well. :CC
 

p123

Elite
Member
Joined
Oct 10, 2015
Messages
5,587
Haha, not canon to me my friend. AT has lost his marbles a long time ago. Hell, he's lucky I even consider that hot mess of an arc called the Buu Saga canon. In terms of a purity stand point, the saga should probably end at the Cell Game in terms of decency.
 

Let's Go Fearless!

Zeta Elite
25k
Joined
May 31, 2015
Messages
41,541
Age
25
ahill1 said:
It's not stated they have no sensible chi, is it?
Who? The Kaioshins? Well, Goku used Gohan's ki instead Kaioshin/Kibto to teleport to the Kaioshin's realm.

p123 said:
Haha, not canon to me my friend. AT has lost his marbles a long time ago. Hell, he's lucky I even consider that hot mess of an arc called the Buu Saga canon. In terms of a purity stand point, the saga should probably end at the Cell Game in terms of decency.
Whether it contains a lot of inconsistencies or not, it's still canon.
 

p123

Elite
Member
Joined
Oct 10, 2015
Messages
5,587
To you, not me. I only consider the manga to be canon. ( I'm smarter than you )
 

SSJ2

Zeta Elite
Staff member
Founder
Joined
Oct 12, 2014
Messages
65,753
Age
28
Super has no relation to the manga considering how fast it retconned the end of Z powers. That's all I need to call it a side story.
 

SSJ2

Zeta Elite
Staff member
Founder
Joined
Oct 12, 2014
Messages
65,753
Age
28
Fearless Hit said:
There's no contradictions between Super and EoZ.
Now that's just wrong buddy boy.
 

Evil Vegeta

High Class Warrior
Member
Joined
Jun 3, 2015
Messages
3,428
When it comes to questions like, "Can Kaioshin be sensed?", I feel as though it's best to go with what the story was trying to convey. Every statement made about them seems to be based on intuition. The fact that they were different would raise some alarms, so that's probably why Goku and Gohan thought they were strong.

The moment Goku wakes up, he begins to sense everything around him. I can understand not sensing Gohan, but I find it hard to believe he wouldn't have sensed Kaioshin in a weakened state if he actually had Chi to be sensed. If Goku can sense weak ass Bobbidi's Chi disappear, then sensing Kaioshin would've been likely if he could be sensed. Kibito can sense Kaioshin simply because they're of the same nature. This explains why Old Kaioshin was able to gauge KibitoKai's power later without any issue. They're the exception here.

After Goku goes back to Otherworld, he quickly sensed Gohan on the Kaioshin world. Once he teleported there, he was shocked to see both Kaioshin and Kibito there. That tells me he couldn't sense them, or he would've at least had an indication of them before getting there.

Kaioshin and Kibito merge, celebrating their new power. Goku just looked at them and said "weird" while continuing to give them a strange look the entire time. Power is often the most important thing in the series. The fact that he didn't comment on his power once tells me that he didn't sense him. The only one who could was Old Kaioshin.

I can understand not being able to sense someone because they're not fighting, but that's entirely different than being suppressed all the time. They have no reason to be suppressed like that outside of the tournament since their identity was no longer a secret.

Honestly, I just don't think they can be sensed. Too many things show that they can't.
 
Top