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Captain Cadaver said:
Depends whether or not the gap between Goku and Beerus gets boosted any further, considering Sidra is at best slightly above MSSB/Kaioken Blue Galu. I'd probably say Sidra zero-diffs, since I wouldn't really even have a 2x gap between them until further evidence presents itself.

MSSB Vegetto VS Whis & Vados
- No Time Reversals
- Stamina drain of MSSB still applies.

I'd say Whis and Vados win. Vegetto has a huge gap over them but Whis and Vados are the best fighters in he series, being able to move without thinking and could easily take advantage of Vegetto's stamina drain.

SSJ Vegetto (Super) vs MSSJB Goku

- If SSJ Vegetto gets stomped make it SSJ2 Vegetto

- If SSJ2 Vegetto gets stomped make it SSJ3 Vegetto
 

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Vegetto probably needs SSG to win imo, unless the gap between MSSB Galu and Beerus gets widened yet again.

Panputto VS 21st TB Roshi
- Budokai rules
- Roshi can use the Bankoku Bikkuri Sho if pushed to the brink of defeat.
 

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Vegetto probably needs SSG to win imo, unless the gap between MSSB Galu and Beerus gets widened yet again.

What do you think about the implication of Base Vegetto >>> being SSJB Goku/Vegeta?

Panputto VS 21st TB Roshi
- Budokai rules
- Roshi can use the Bankoku Bikkuri Sho if pushed to the brink of defeat.

Roshi with extreme diff. Panputto is stronger but Roshi is way more skilled and experience and has a number of techniques that would lay Panput out.

Tenshinhan (King Kai Planet Filler) vs Goku (@Ginyu Force)
 

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Animelover5487 said:
What do you think about the implication of Base Vegetto >>> being SSJB Goku/Vegeta?

Tenshinhan (King Kai Planet Filler) vs Goku (@Ginyu Force)
Vegetto damaging Merged Zamasu doesn't mean much when Zamasu was relaxed and expecting to easily kill a weakened Goku and Vegeta. I don't see the "I won't even need an hour" statement as much of an indicator, since it just means Merged Zamasu >> Base Vegetto.

Probably Goku. Tenshinhan was only slightly above each of them even when halving his power with the Shishin no Ken, so his battle power is likely not much higher than 80k.

Broly God runs the Super gauntlet
 

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Movie 10? Or you mean Kale?

I'd say he doesn't get past powered-up Bills for sure.

Ginyu-Force (After-Life filler) vs Android #17 :troll2 :troll2 :troll2
 

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Fantastische Hure said:
Movie 10? Or you mean Kale?
Ginyu-Force (After-Life filler) vs Android #17 :troll2 :troll2 :troll2
The version of him from the 4-D Jump show who can stomp SSB Goku and requires SSB Gogeta to take him on.

#17 can oneshot each of them, given they don't need to be much stronger than Namek SSJ Galu at best. However, their poses are so fabulous that #17's fighting spirit diminishes and he goes back to ranging the shit out of that park.

1-armed SSJ future Gohan (TV Special) VS Piccolo (post-Kami Fusion)
- Piccolo starts with his weights off.
- Fight takes place in the wasteland Piccolo trained Gohan during the Saiyan Arc.
- Win by KO.
 

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Piccolo schools him.

SSJB Vegeta vs Golden Frieza

- Current anime versions of both of them
- Takes place in an empty West City
 

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Considering Golden Freeza is completely even with SSB Goku, I doubt Vegeta will fare any differently. Assuming it's a fight to the death though, I'd give it to Freeza due to his psychokinesis and Tsuibi Kienzan give him an edge in deadly techniques.

Current Kuririn runs the U7 Team Gauntlet
- Equalised battle powers
- Budokai rules
 

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Beats 17, 18, and maybe Tenshinhan and Freeza. The rest of the group beat him IMO.

FP Cyborg Freeza and King Cold vs SSJ Gohan (One arm)
If the team wins, they fight SSJ Trunks
 

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The Trunks who killed them was most likely not too much stronger than Future Gohan at the time of his death, so Gohan wins with high-diff at most.

DBS Pan runs the Saiyan/Freeza Arc Gauntlet
- Pan can control he burst of potential in this scenario and is aware she needs to defeat her opponent.
 

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Stops at best on Nappa IMO. Most of her feats guys from BoZ can do it.

Jaco vs Saiyan Arc Yajirobe
If Jaco wins he fights a Saibamen
 

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The soldiers in FnF were supposed to be the best of Freeza's army, with the average soldier on Namek having a battle power far above 1k. Jaco low-diffs in both scenarios.

BoZ Kuririn VS Young Piccolo Daimao
 

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Kuririn probably has done moderate training during those 5 years to the point where he should at least be able to beat Piccolo Daimoa mid-diff at best.

Ultimate Gohan (Current) vs Super Saiyan Rage Trunks
 

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Considering Current SSB Goku > SSR Black (Full Power) >/>> SSJ Rage Trunks > SSR Black (Initial), Gohan wins with mid to high-diff.

SSJ Rage Future Trunks (Manga) VS Initial SSJ Black
 

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I don't think that was such a big deal, all he did was being pushed back by Zamasu. But i think he can beat Base Black.

SSJ Trunks (Post Z Sword) vs Perfect Cell
 

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Trunks seemed to have an easier time using the Z-Sword than Goku did and comparatively so to Gohan, so Trunks low-diffs. I'd just assume Future Dabura is far stronger than his main timeline self due to having more time to get stronger.

Current SSJ Rage Ultimate Gohan VS Kaioken Blue Goku
- Gohan gets the SSJ Rage boost as Future Trunks did.
 

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Based on how much better Trunks did against Black when he obtained SSJ Rage, this extra boost on top of Gohan's max power is likely big enough for him to win, especially with his improved H2H combat and battle sharpness.

Base Trunks (25th Budokai) vs Base Goku (21st Budokai)

- Equivalent speed & power
- No transformations
- Takes place in the World of Void arena w/ the Daishinkan's rules
 

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Goku wins with mid-diff at best. As far as battle skill goes, Trunks' only advantage is being capable of sensing Ki, whereas Goku was trained by a skilled martial artist in H2H combat and has far better battle tactics.

True Golden Freeza VS SSJ Black (Peak)
- Manga-scaling for both.
 

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If it's just Frieza without the stamina problem, then Black wins. Though, if Frieza also gets the power increase that his anime counterpart got, then Frieza wins.

Kaioken x3 Nail vs Captain Ginyu

- No Kaioken strain for Nail
- Frieza Arc Ginyu
- Full intel on both sides
 

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Both seem like skilled fighters, but Nail's regeneration and tiny power advantage ought to give him the edge, imo.

Goku base (U6 tournamet arc/ Manga) vs Ultimate Gohan (vs super boo)
 

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