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Considering Frieza's survival feats against GoD Toppo, and the incredibly effective attack combinations he has at his disposal like Paralysis + Death Saucers, he could win this. If we don't treat his survival feats against GoD Toppo as legit, then SSJ Kefla wrecks him.

Goku's Genki Dama @ Jiren runs the gauntlet:

Initial ToP Goku

1. KK x20
2. KK x25
3. KK x30
4. KK x35
5. KK x40
6. KK x45
7. KK x50

- Not a survival contest, just power-wise.
 

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17 gets his ass kicked, realistically speaking. Though, if taking into account his performance against Jiren before his sacrifice, then he wins via scaling if it holds true that Jiren brought out his full power in Ep 127.

Fat Buu (@ Dabura) vs SSJ2 Kid Gohan

- If Buu wins, SPC can help Gohan
 

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It seems Jiren's going to either do a new power up or reveal that the one he did in ep 127 was fake going by those 129 spoilers, although he'd still be >>> UI Galu (initial) so its still bullshit that 17 performed that well.

Boo loses to the team but not to either alone. Fat Boo made Majin Vegeta and SSJ2 Galu piss his pants and admit that everyone would be killed if they didn't fight together, so I think Vegeta's initial performance against him was just due to Boo testing him/playing around.

SSJ2 Majin Vegeta and SSJ2 Boo arc Gohan vs. SSJ2 Kid Gohan and SPC
 

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Team 1 would likely have better teamwork, but I'd still give it to team 2 due to Buu Arc Gohan being the weak link here in terms of battle power.

Fat Buu's Candy Beam vs Dabura's Stone Spit

- Equal BPs

What object would come of the collision?
 

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Team 1 would likely have better teamwork, but I'd still give it to team 2 due to Buu Arc Gohan being the weak link here in terms of battle power.

Fat Buu's Candy Beam vs Dabura's Stone Spit

- Equal BPs

What object would come of the collision?
 

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Spiral-Force said:
Team 1 would likely have better teamwork, but I'd still give it to team 2 due to Buu Arc Gohan being the weak link here in terms of battle power.

Fat Buu's Candy Beam vs Dabura's Stone Spit

- Equal BPs

What object would come of the collision?

A stone candy ?

Mafuba VS EoGT Goku

Would it work ?
 

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If assuming Galu can no longer gain those haxed gains due to SSJ4 being his limit, Mafuba stomps.

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Keedounan said:
Spiral-Force said:
Team 1 would likely have better teamwork, but I'd still give it to team 2 due to Buu Arc Gohan being the weak link here in terms of battle power.

Fat Buu's Candy Beam vs Dabura's Stone Spit

- Equal BPs

What object would come of the collision?

A stone candy ?

Mafuba VS EoGT Goku

Would it work ?

Why wouldn't it work? All Goku did was absorb the Dragonballs.

Roshi vs a Saibaman

- Roshi trains with the other humans on Kami Lookout in preparation for the Saiyans. He makes the same gains as Kuririn.
 

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Most likely not, seeing as how not only is there the statement about Goku's aura deflecting all harmful attacks, but the name of the Mafuba would imply it won't work on the pure hearted unless it's the Reverse Mafuba.

Manly GAINZ Roshi VS Base Cabba
- ToP versions of both.

Edit: Not counting Super logic, Roshi most likely gets wrecked. I have no problem with the Daiz's 610 rating for Chaozu who'd be stronger than Roshi at this point and Roshi's age would make his gains not much different.
 

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Captain Cadaver said:
Most likely not, seeing as how not only is there the statement about Goku's aura deflecting all harmful attacks, but the name of the Mafuba would imply it won't work on the pure hearted unless it's the Reverse Mafuba.

Manly GAINZ Roshi VS Base Cabba
- ToP versions of both.

Similar powers, but Roshi has a skill advantage, Mafuba, and he's much, much manlier.

Base Caulifla VS Final Form Freeza
 

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Captain Cadaver said:
Most likely not, seeing as how not only is there the statement about Goku's aura deflecting all harmful attacks, but the name of the Mafuba would imply it won't work on the pure hearted unless it's the Reverse Mafuba.

Manly GAINZ Roshi VS Base Cabba
- ToP versions of both.

Edit: Not counting Super logic, Roshi most likely gets wrecked. I have no problem with the Daiz's 610 rating for Chaozu who'd be stronger than Roshi at this point and Roshi's age would make his gains not much different.

Mafuba worked on Kami who's purged himself of evil. It was most likely just named such because of Daimao's name. Plus, to assume Galus aura blocks even the most powerful attacks when it merely deflected YXL's generic blasts onscreen is to use the no limits fallacy imo.

Freeza stomps in the ToP. FnF arc Freeza gets raped though.

EoGT Galu vs. SSJ4 Gogeta Jr.
 

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Idea of Gaslight said:
Mafuba worked on Kami who's purged himself of evil.

That was reverse Mafuba, though...

Plus, to assume Galus aura blocks even the most powerful attacks when it merely deflected YXL's generic blasts onscreen is to use the no limits fallacy imo.

This isn't an assumption. It was outright stated in an interview than Goku's aura doesn't let any attack near him.

Those "generic" blasts were fired by a guy who made two SSJ4 (boosted further the limits of a normal one at that) look like weaklings. This isn't something to sneeze at. Not to mention he likely survived Omega Shenron's powerful ki ball that way, which is not a generic blast by any mean.

EoGT Galu vs. SSJ4 Gogeta Jr.

Goku. Goku and Vegeta jr. don't seem that strong, and if Onega Shenron failed to pass Goku's aura, those two will too.

EoGT Galu's aura VS Magic Touch

Will it work ?
 

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EoGT Galu has fused with :toei and Toshit's boner for Goku. He can solo anything on Dragon Ball.

Edit: Got ninja'd by Keedounan, but my response still stands. Logically Goku should perish, but this is Toei we are talking about.

Kuririn (Post Kaio) vs Kuririn (Full Potential Unlocked)
~ The first Kuririn has died against Nappa and has trained with Kaio like everyone else who died fighting.
Round 1: Post 6 days (When Piccolo left)
Round 2: Post 136 days (When Yamcha left)
Round 3: Post 266 days (When Ten and Chaozu left)
 

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According to the Daizenshuu a reverse Mafuba is just a large Mafuba used to repel a smaller one, plus I fail to see why the mechanics would be so different that the reverse version inexplicably works on both the evil and non-evil since Frost demonstrated he controls a similar energy to the one Roshi shot at him, plus Kami didn't wonder why Piccolo could use a Mafuba that works on benevolent creatures.

A similar aura used by Toppo was unable to repel several attacks. There's no reason to assume EoGT Galu's aura would work any different if the opponent shoots an attack stronger than spirit-fapped Galu.

SSJ4 is potential-based tho.

Magic Touch either fails or Galu can still move regardless due to the power difference imo.

BoG arc Beerus' Hakai vs. current SSJ2 Galu
 

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Goku gets erased.

USSJ Trunks (Cell Games) vs MSSJ Gohan (Cell Games)

- Trunks has his ASSJ speed
 

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Trunks would still be far slower than his actual power so he gets stomped.

same fight but with Trunks' power and speed equal
 

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Captain Cadaver said:
Edit: Not counting Super logic, Roshi most likely gets wrecked. I have no problem with the Daiz's 610 rating for Chaozu who'd be stronger than Roshi at this point and Roshi's age would make his gains not much different.

What if Roshi made the same gains as Kuririn though? Who went from 206 to allegedly 1,770.

Also, Roshi made comparable gains to Kuririn and Yamcha after training for the 22nd Budokai so I doubt even back then AT was thinking too much about Roshi's old age in terms of his ability to get stronger.
 

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Idea of Gaslight said:
According to the Daizenshuu a reverse Mafuba is just a large Mafuba used to repel a smaller one, plus I fail to see why the mechanics would be so different that the reverse version inexplicably works on both the evil and non-evil since Frost demonstrated he controls a similar energy to the one Roshi shot at him.

Good point.

A similar aura used by Toppo was unable to repel several attacks.

Similar =/= Same, though. Especially when the nature and potence of the protection are completely different. Toppo destroys the attack, Goku's aura simply acts like a barrier. Being stronger than user is enough for Topoo, while Omega Shenron was far stronger than Base Goku, yet he failed to hurt him.

Also, I wouldn't rely on Super's logic to make a conclusion on GT. Freeza (Super) made better gains in four months than Freeza (GT) did in years.

SSJ4 is potential-based tho.

Which seems to depend on how strong the character is. SSJ4 Goku from Super 17 arc is far stronger than the one from Baby arc, for example. Same for Gohan from ToP compared to the one from Boo arc.

Trunks likely wins against MSSJ Gohan.

Dyspo VS SSJ Cabba
-Dyspo's speed is equal to his actual strength
 

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