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Honestly think Gohan takes it.
Majin Raditz vs Piccolo Saiyan Saga
If piccolo loses have be Supressed saiyan saga goku
 

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I think the Majin boost would be quite massive for Raditz seeing as he has obviously trained significantly less than Nappa and Vegeta (judging by the fact that he hadn't even trained his tail), so Raditz wins without doubt.

Future Trunks vs. Saitoh Hajime (RK) in on-screen kill count contest
 

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Trunks' onscreen kill count is 5 in the manga and significantly more counting the movies, whereas I struggle to remember any of Saito's significant kills outside of Usui, so Trunks wins in both quality and quantity.

Oozaru Tullece (post-2nd Shinseijuu) VS Base Goku and Vegeta (Final Namek Zenkais)
 

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Oozaru Turles post-2nd fruit would normally be too much for even KKx20 Goku, but the absence of post-Oozaru intelligence associated with low class Saiyans will probably give them the opportunity to cut his tail and allow Galu to finish him off with Kaioken.

Anime Goku Black Zenkai VS Cell's self-inflicted Zenkai in terms of rule-breaking bullshit.
 

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Definitely Black's. SPC's Zenkai is overly convenient, but not exactly rule breaking if rationalising Cell's regeneration as more advanced than Piccolo's due to all that gene-splicing and that the nucleus in Cell's head was more as a last resort method rather than the source of his regeneration entirely (Cell never directly states he can't regenerate at all without it and didn't expect to regenerate as opposed to not being surprised at all in getting back up from Galu's Kamehameha). It's assumptive, but not impossible, whereas Black's method of Zenkais is impossible without ignoring how they're entirely a biological trait and what's required for ones of significance to even activate even if assuming Anime Goku hadn't maxed his out.

Gill runs a Part 1 gauntlet
 

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Gill managed to make Vegeta-Baby flinch so he clears on that alone. :troll

Super Baby 1 vs. Buff Purple Zamasu in unnecessary transformation contest
 

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Purple Zamasu in general wins with how it was deemed so unnecessary Toyo scrapped it entirely for the manga :alex2.

Taopaipai and Grandpa Gohan VS Chappa
 

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If Peak Tao is of relevance in the 22nd as is implied later in the arc, he wins on that alone. Based on just scaling off his feats in canon, I'd say neither of the two would be able to touch him much like Chappa's earlier opponents going by Grandpa Gohan not managing to deal even superficial damage on post-Choshinsui Galu, and Taopaipai only ever managing to sting Galu's hands and very briefly push him when using his sword. Jackie and the others acted like Chappa was quite a wall to climb even for what they expected of Galu following 3 years of a training journey, so I have little doubt that Chappa would win against Baba arc Galu.

:autism vs. Zapan vs. :pakl in stupid and assbackwards reasoning for a grudge contest
 

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:autism wins by a landslide when his grudge is entirely one of his own making. :pakl comes next since there's at least some level of rationale behind his flawed perspective (eg. the hyperemotional mind of one naturally built to be a berserker) and his grudge against Galu in Movie 8 at least wasn't as pronounced as later material after he went LSSJ. Zapan comes last since getting beat by Alita causing a big blotch on his reputation is at least somewhat understandable despite being simplistic.

Base #13 VS Future #18
 

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Base #13 probably wins since I don't think Future #18 could last against SSJ Galu and Piccolo (presumably fused with Kami already) by herself.

SSJ Gohan (at the time of Galu attaining the grade forms) vs. #13
 

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I think Gohan was like, rivaling Pre Rosat Goku or Vegeta at best, so #13 should still win.

Androids 13, 14 and 15 vs the 10 billion or so Metal Coolers Goku and Vegeta fought in M6. 13 can merge with the others and become Super if he must.
 

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I don't really think Vegeta or Goku got noticeably stronger between Movies 6 and 7 so the Metal Coolas stomp. Even Super #13 would lose against that many enemies imo.

All 1000000 Metal Coolas vs. M8 RSSJ Broly

- Broly can't go LSSJ

- This is the RSSJ Broly that tanked Vegeta's kick, not the one that bled from base Goku's attack.

- Nobody can blow up the planet
 

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Since this is the same Broly who ravaged a sizeable enough portion of the South Galaxy/Quadrant enough to easily be Multi-Solar System level, he wipes all the Coolas out. Strength in numbers isn't making up for that gap in capabilities.

FighterZ mistranslation about Gogeta VS #17's Park Ranger GAINZ in terms of out of nowhere hype
 

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Difficult to say tbh. On one hand, Gogeta was at least the strongest character in his continuity unless you count a hypothetical SSJ4 Vegetto, but the form itself being more powerful than UI is hilariously stupid when the anime openly had Goku break through his God Ki limits to even unlock UI Sign, so I'd say the Gogeta mistranslation wins by a hair when asspull power ups are more than an everyday occurrence in Super, including ones that make long-since irrelevant characters overly relevant. Plus, #17 was still barely within the top 10 strongest fighters in the ToP even with his asspull gainz in the anime and barely any higher in the manga only thanks to Anilaza and a few other characters being nerfed.

SSJ4 Gogeta vs. TFS Nappa in a 50 year old manchild contest
 

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Nappa definitely wins when Gogeta could still be serious when he wanted to, whereas TFS Nappa never broke character.

Anime Dabura VS Pre-Majin SS2 Vegeta
- Anime had Dabura reveal he'd held back against Gohan when raising his Ki significantly against Fat Boo.
- Vegeta only has knowledge of the stone spit and not Dabura's other magic.
 

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I'd probably still say Vegeta due to the anime rarely breaking the narrative on canon power chains (prior to that SSJ3 Galu/Kid Boo >> all BS), as can be observed with other similar occurrences like Vegeta doing a huge power up on Namek after his Dende Zenkai and still amounting to nothing more than his original manga iteration.

DBH Gogeta (e.g. Mr. "I can defeat Zen'o") vs. SSJ tier Dodoria (in one of the DBH trailers) in laughable wank contest
 

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DBH Gogeta when Gogeta's best feat prior was mid-diffing a guy who "might be" stronger than Beerus (for one arc, at least :troll), whereas SSJ tier Dodoria isn't so laughable when we've seen his Golden form on two occasions :troll2.

Movie Continuity Beerus VS Golden Oozaru Baby
 

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Movie continuity suppressed Beerus is still > SSJ3 BoG movie Vegetto, so I'm inclined to say he wins if you take the magazine entry suggesting Vegetto > SSJ4 to be credible. If not, I'd still say being able to casually destroy the Kaioshinkai suggests he can outspeed Baby and Hakai his tail.

DBH Universe Creation arc Fu vs. Granola arc Beerus
 

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Fu oneshots when considering how much greater the capability of Super anime characters are compared to their manga counterparts. Even if equalising stats between the two continuities when considering it's inevitable the Moro Arc and onwards will be animated, the result would be the same when considering how far DBH characters' capabilities such as those of SSJ Xeno Goku are above Super characters, and Fu was able to avoid being oneshotted by SS4 Xeno Vegetto.

Namu & 21st TB Kuririn VS General Blue
- Blue can't freeze more than one fighter at once.
 

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Fu oneshots when considering how much greater the capability of Super anime characters are compared to their manga counterparts. Even if equalising stats between the two continuities when considering it's inevitable the Moro Arc and onwards will be animated, the result would be the same when considering how far DBH characters' capabilities such as those of SSJ Xeno Goku are above Super characters, and Fu was able to avoid being oneshotted by SS4 Xeno Vegetto.

You're forgetting that SSJB Vegetto (who I can only assume is based on his DBS incarnation) was almost equal in feats to not just SSJ4 Xeno Vegetto, but his Limit Breaker incarnation - and that Vegetto logically shouldn't be twice Beerus' power or anything at this point in the game.

Namu & 21st TB Kuririn VS General Blue
- Blue can't freeze more than one fighter at once.

I don't think 21st Kuririn made any gainz in just a few days by the time he fought Blue, so since Blue got caught off guard by Kuririn's Zanzoken and was given a nosebleed, adding in a fighter at least as capable as Kuririn would definitely result in a low diff win. Although it's possible for Blue to use some rope magic like he did against Roshi if he were truly pushed. Still, I'd say two fighters of seemingly greater skill than Blue would definitely win if Blue can't paralyze more than one fighter.

Kenshin's Hokkaido-hen vs. Episode of Bardock in tarnishing the spirit of the mother work :tapion
 

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