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How strong do you have Raditz?

How strong is Piccolo?

You think Gohan beats Weighted Piccolo?

What’s Piccolo’s weighted power? His unweighted power? What’s your boost for Kami? This is to big of a disparity for me. These should be equal no?

Ssj Broly M10 > LSSJ Broly M8 > Ssj Goku (Buu Saga) LSSJ Broly M8 is only MSSJ tier and LSSJ Broly M10 is only Ssj2 tier. That isn’t nerfing.

Good Buu only a little stronger than Vegeta?

Where did South Kaioshin’s power go if not into Mr. Buu?

Masenko can’t do anything to Reecome. It seems doubtful, Gohan is fighting for his life there’s no reason for him to be using his strongest attack. It’s like arguing Galick Gun is stronger than Final Crash. It seems doubtful. Why would it be stronger?

Yeah in the manga Reecome literally blows away Gohan’s strongest attack. Masenko ain’t doing nothing here. Anime filler is anime filler.

Yeah the 100x multiplier makes KKx20 completely worthless to Freeza which doesn’t seem to be the case. Remember, Vegeta only has an amp around 1.33x and KKx3 Goku could not overwhelm him. That’s clear evidence KK Kamehamehas either produce zero amp or a very minimal amp.

How do you know? No one mentions Gotenks getting a smaller boost.

Yeah, this is pretty much an impossible task.

This is great, anyone plan on picking this thing back up?

It implies the gag wasn’t legit or Goku gets a way bigger than 50x boost or Gotenks gets smaller than 50x. Which one you picking

All 3 are false. I know you didn’t just say Super was non canon lol cmon bro.

The new material is canon and supersedes the older material. Remember when we used to think the legendary Super Saiyan was a one-off thing? And then we got Trunks? It’s almost like arguing Trunks never became a Super Saiyan.

How did we come up with this lol?

Goku surpassed Gohan 6 years prior to 25th Budokai in his Super Saiyan 3 form already.

Sure but he’s somewhere around Kid Buu right? Which means… Goku’s base power should be somewhere around his Ssj3 power, which is enough to surpass Gotenks and Gohan. It’s a big deal.

How strong do you have Base Goku vs Oob?