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Something we can find common ground on 🤝

Dark purple like in the manga looks best, but the pale white-purple from the original anime is still better than the blue. I wish in Kai or Super they took the chance to at least make Bulma’s hair color correct so it’d be less confusing with Trunks.

This unironically

I don’t think Fusion- or latent potential unlocked-levels of power would ever be attainable for Goku or Vegeta with just regular training on Earth.

I'd be interested to see the bottom 102 of that list

Yes No Yes Yes No No 3/6

Too hard to pick favorites but not a single Pokemon after Gen 4 would be on my list.

I don't mind using their filler strength of stronger than the Ginyus even if it doesn't make a lot of sense.

I think Vegeta would have the same advantage over 18 that he did over Zarbon, but with her infinite energy and his G2 strain she would be able to last long enough to win.

Perhaps.

Pretty rusty on this topic but wouldn't 19 be stronger? He fared better against SS Vegeta than 20 did against Piccolo.

In universe it would make no sense at all. Regardless of what Akira Toriyama "felt" like the Super Saiyan boost was I don't think it was ever less than 50x. I don't see anything in the story that keeps it from working either.

I've always gone with 500,000 too. He seemed noticeably more winded than Freeza after their short tussle. A 1.06x gap seems appropriate.

If SS4 Vegeta ended up close in power to SS4 Goku after surpassing his limits then it's possible the excess bruits waves from Bulma's machine do give an additional boost.

I noticed it got a lot more hate when I first joined forums compared to now too. I guess Super just set the bar so low that even GT seems decent compared to it.

Wait till you find out what Muk is backwards

Base Vegetto one shots

Good question :unsure: I'm not sure

Did anyone ever play this? I'm considering getting it.

I don't think Goku's SS4 form got any stronger from the Baby arc to the Shadow Dragons arc and I know some say that Goku's base form wasn't much weaker than his SS4 by the Shadow Dragons arc but I still don't think he'd be strong enough to beat Great Ape Vegeta-Baby.