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  1. Papasmurf

    Was Buff Roshi stronger than Oozaru Goku? (21st)

    Goten is the one looking like he's eating shit and sweating profusely though. Trunks doesn't look half as exhausted by comparison. I'm entertaining either scenario. But the fact that Roshi only cites Goku's growing fatigue rather than the injuries dealt from his electric shock surprise tells me...
  2. Papasmurf

    Was Buff Roshi stronger than Oozaru Goku? (21st)

    Tell that to AT not me lol. Toriyama isn't a fighting expert. Goten was the only one shown to be struggling in that instance, so in his mind Goten should've been the one losing stamina. Goku also got shocked by the pirate robot in the RRA arc and was no worse for wear. Though in that case, the...
  3. Papasmurf

    Was Buff Roshi stronger than Oozaru Goku? (21st)

    Suffocate is in English only. In Japanese Trunks says "Any more of this, and you'll die!". It definitely should've resulted in a loss of stamina, but Goten was fine afterwards. Goku also doesn't seem to show any pain or injury after reverting back from being Oozaru, his fatigue seems to mostly...
  4. Papasmurf

    Was Buff Roshi stronger than Oozaru Goku? (21st)

    Goten was nearing the point of suffocation from the full nelson and in Japanese (I just checked), Trunks says he'll die at this rate.
  5. Papasmurf

    Was Buff Roshi stronger than Oozaru Goku? (21st)

    I honestly don't think it affected Oozaru Goku's performance. Goku doesn't seem to have struggled any more than Goten did to try and break Trunks' full nelson in the 25th.
  6. Papasmurf

    Was Buff Roshi stronger than Oozaru Goku? (21st)

    I think Buff Roshi's Kamehameha has a higher power than Oozaru Goku, I'm not sure Buff Roshi himself could beat Oozaru Goku in a head-on fight though.
  7. Papasmurf

    SSJ Gohan (Super Hero arc) vs. SSJB Goku (RoF)

    Who says they fought in base though? They probably went Blue and Golden to fight like in the anime.
  8. Papasmurf

    BoDB Goku vs Spopovich

    He probably inferred it from his ability to fly and shoot ki blasts. He knew he couldn't do that before.
  9. Papasmurf

    BoDB Goku vs Spopovich

    In Japanese he says "He has powers far above his ability..." which is likely referring to the potential unlock.
  10. Papasmurf

    BoDB Goku vs Spopovich

    We know that Goku generally walks around with a BP of 5000 in the Freeza arc. Given his gains since then, he's probably stronger here prior to suppressing. If he doesn't instantly catch up to them while not suppressing further (and neither do Kibito and Gohan while actively putting up flight...
  11. Papasmurf

    BoDB Goku vs Spopovich

    From an out of universe perspective, to show that Spopovich was unnaturally enhanced. From an in-universe perspective, Spopo was actively putting himself below Videl at first as seen by him taking a beating in the beginning. So he suffered from it, until he raised his power and was then able to...
  12. Papasmurf

    BoDB Goku vs Spopovich

    If she didn't have natural android durability and suppressed herself to Earthling levels, she certainly could. To toy with Videl. He was stated to be prolonging the fight to torture her. Lesser potential unlocksl like the God Water wouldn't even work on 23rd characters based on it being stated...
  13. Papasmurf

    BoDB Goku vs Spopovich

    Why not? Wouldn't you say 18 was supressing to a milionth of her 10% when stomping Jewel? Videl is just an above average martial artist for regular Earthling standards. Of course Spopovich would suppress himself when actively trying not to kill her. That was allowed to happen because it...
  14. Papasmurf

    BoDB Goku vs Spopovich

    It was literally stated that Spopovich suppressed his Ki blast and you you're contending that he was suppressing...? Bruh. Babidi's magic charm draws our a person's potential past its limits. therefore, it's more potent than the God Water Goku drank which was stated to be useless past a certain...
  15. Papasmurf

    BoDB Goku vs Spopovich

    A one handed blast from Kuririn basically killed Vegeta when he was suppressed, a rock thrown by base Goten threatened SSJ Gohan at an unspecified level of power. Suppression can alter a character's durability tremendously. Hell, even Super Boo, a variation of Boo, can range in durability from...
  16. Papasmurf

    BoDB Goku vs Spopovich

    Because Goku couldn't even maintain flight for long while running on Snake Road while Spopovich and Yamu showed zero sign of exhaustion, which we know Majin aren't impervious to, after flying a huge distance away from the tournament arena, far enough that it took Gohan and Kibito a decent while...
  17. Papasmurf

    SSJ Gohan (Super Hero arc) vs. SSJB Goku (RoF)

    So who do you think wins this battle?
  18. Papasmurf

    SSJ Gohan (Super Hero arc) vs. SSJB Goku (RoF)

    Have the Saiyans gotten strong enough that they can contend with RoF Blues in SSJ form?
  19. Papasmurf

    Who's winning? Emperor Pilaf or Garlic Jr. (pre wish)

    Maybe he knows some basic martial arts, he does boss around Mai and Shu... :manabu2
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