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  1. Spiral-Force

    Is Tao's physical power unique?

    We should give credence to something with zero sample size? Not exactly a Guinness World Record entry with multiple participants trying their hand at this.
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    Is Tao's physical power unique?

    I don't think Tao was intended to have an excess stat, just unorthodox tendencies, like the way he beat Blue. This doesn't mean anyone that scales higher could do it as smoothly, necessarily.
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    What have you been watching in the past 7 days?

    Couple of episodes into Serial Experiments Lain. The slow-pacing hasn't bothered me since there's always something going on. I find it to be engaging so far.
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    This should've happened to Bulma

    Hello. - Here are the forum rules: https://dbzeta.net/threads/forum-rules.1/ - I read your rebuttal to him. It looks like you were focused on points, which is the baseline for debate. Nothing malicious about such an approach. - Only thing I'd suggest is to double-check your quoting. You did...
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    People overrate Birus's superiority over Gokuu.

    The idea of "moving the goalpost" tends to be ascribed to Beerus, but that's because he's still treated as relevant later in the anime/manga + supplementary material. His dominance over SSJ3 Goku is the last thing people would point to, out of all the ways to analyse him.
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    This should've happened to Bulma

    I've yet to come across anyone so anti-Bulma. She's generally not at the forefront of people's minds as much as combat-driven characters, so I suppose the incentive to form a strong opinion on her (whether high or low) isn't of great importance. On the flipside, is there any character you like...
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    Anyone Watch Through The Series Recently?

    I think you're on the right track. Another factor is how people treat what we saw. Quite a number of Vegeta's fans feel sorry for him as a result, but it's just how his character is constructed. Maybe if there was a B (to the main villain's A) antagonist (with a far closer gap than Ginyu/Frieza...
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    Anyone Watch Through The Series Recently?

    Still look at clips every now and then. Something I've thought about recently is that Vegeta hardly reflects on strategic blunders in his fight career, just the PL differences in the end.
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    Anime Pure Boo > Super Vegetto

    Finishing someone off doesn't constitute winning? One of your own quotes goes against that. Look below: Conclusion: Super Saiyan 3 Goku has the power to put Kid Buu away, but he wasn't fighting efficiently. The whole point of Vegito was to utilize power that exceeds his fusees, giving them an...
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    Bring-back the old friend-group

    I could maybe see Yamcha as the clumsy espionage guy, like Piccolo in Super Hero. Perhaps Zeno would be intrigued by Puar, being entertained by his shape-shifting; could make it a competition between him and Oolong. Though this may be considered bittersweet tidbits at best to someone that's...
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    Boss-Rabbit vs Freeza

    Could see a scenario where the rabbit tries to be sneaky, gets caught, then vaporized. The storyline isn't particularly charitable to characters leaps and bounds weaker than their opponent.
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    Did Piccolo Daimao ever train?

    Don't think he felt the need to. He was astonished that his spawn could fail in battle, begrudgingly having to clean up their mess.
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    Nila Rewatches The DBZ Movies

    Generally, shows that focus on being intellectually stimulating would be considered as having rich writing (aka, being well-written). What I like about powerscaling is that there are more opportunities for objective analysis. While writing quality seems like more of a grey area. For example...
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    Nila Rewatches The DBZ Movies

    When something has the ability to: (A) be used as reference (B) produce ideas, with or without (A) - this leads to all sorts of discussions. Within any given entertainment content, there's bound to be differences in how people approach content. I think a disconnect usually occurs when someone...
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    How Many Stars Are There?

    @Sovran Nila Thanks for elaborating. That reinforces we aren't dealing with literality with these naming conventions. Another example would be Black "Star" Dragon Balls having no association with stars beyond name.
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    Nila Rewatches The DBZ Movies

    During your watch, would you say any of the below factors stood out to you or was consciously (or subconsciously) thought about more than other factors? - Character Writing - Storytelling - Powerscaling - Visuals From what I can gather, you enjoy broad trivia-style Dragon Ball chat. Beyond...
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    How Many Stars Are There?

    The Big Gete Star wasn't a star in the cosmological sense. I haven't seen "Dark Star" referenced in the franchise. 10^24 stars is a figure often cited from astronomers' estimates for the observable universe. This could act as a ball park range for Dragon Ball's mortal universe (one of multiple...
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    Piccolo (vs. Super Saiyan) vs. Tien (Shin Kikoho vs. Super Saiyan)?

    Shin Kikoho vs Cell is such a strange instance overall. We are to believe Cell couldn't do anything to overcome the spam besides outlasting a spent Tien? He took no damage, but it makes you think.
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    Is Earth the only DB/Z/GT/Super/Daima planet with multiple cultures? Are humans the only race with multiple cultures?

    Possibly the Tuffles. Although their legacy as a collective was their technological advancements above all else in the end (besides getting wiped out by the Saiyans).
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    Which characters are confirmed to have regressed in BP? Which are suspected to have regressed? How long does regression continue for?

    Sick Goku was a shell of his standard Super Saiyan self, PL-wise. Just being in the form was said to make the condition worse. But he scaled back to normal after the bedridden / antidote period.
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