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  1. Spiral-Force

    XXX vs XXX

    Yajirobe based on portrayal. Goku had big praise for his toughness and was impressed by his sword combat, while Goku viewed Tambourine as a fraud the whole time. Shin vs Piccolo - 25th Tenkaichi Budokai as per canon, but Piccolo decides to fight
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    XXX vs XXX

    Scaling from Kurama who is described as having earth-shattering power, Naruto/Sasuke would be more comparable to Saiyan Arc Goku/Vegeta, so Raditz gets handled comfortably. When looking further into the scaling, these boys were capable of fighting someone that could create dimensions containing...
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    Piccolo is the only one training the Next Gen.

    On top of that, Super suggests that Goku is up for sparring with Goten as well, given that they tried to sneak away from Chi-Chi to train. I think there are different factors as to why we don't see it more often, but would argue it's a stretch to say it's plain selfishness. Given how far apart...
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    Piccolo is the only one training the Next Gen.

    Is there any example you would point to that depicts selfishness on Goku or Vegeta's part? Would you say Goten, Gohan, or Trunks aren't at all responsible for not training harder or more often with others that train hard such as G and V?
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    Piccolo is the only one training the Next Gen.

    If the criteria is Buu and onwards as is implied by OP. Bare minimum: Goku or Vegeta wouldn't be opposed to training with Gohan, and actively encourage it, pointing to his potential as a key reason. Vegeta doesn't have the connection Piccolo or Goku have with him; what more can he do without...
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    XXX vs XXX

    Ribrianne loses badly. Don't recall a 'Legoli' in the franchise. FT Saga Vegito vs ToP Warriors Strongest he can beat in the following forms: - Base - SSJ - SSJ2 - SSJ3 - SSJG - SSJB Anime incarnations | No Kaioken stacking
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    Misunderstood villains are annoying

    When a franchise goes on long enough, you tend to see both the pure evil and complex villains implemented, with intervals depending on writer preference. Sticking with the pure evil archetype is bound to feel like an overcorrection that would garner similar criticism eventually. I find there's...
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    Who should the Z fighters have learnt techniques from?

    For any hope of efficiency, a raw stat booster ought to be prioritized in this show. Even the most versatile fighters end up getting in a slugfest or beam struggle at some point. Techniques lose their mojo when you're getting blitzed at every turn.
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    Omega Shenron's Feat Vs Super Saiyan God Goku's Feat: Another Look

    The depiction appears to be that the slightest imbalance of a Goku-Beerus exchange would cause Universal destruction as a byproduct. And that was while Goku was still adjusting to his power. I'm curious how much stock can be put into presence, as opposed to judging the powerscaling in its...
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    Tenshinhan (M9) vs. Future Androids?

    I'll take the duo that dominated an Android Arc squad over a guy that couldn't do anything of note to Trunks. Not looking horrible in a few exchanges doesn't equate to being able to inflict damage, or have legitimate wincons. I understand that some movie characters appear more impressive than...
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    super era fighters vs z era fighters

    As one-sided as the question sounds, it's not all that far from what DB Heroes tried experimenting with. Space-time meddling entities that like to give out power boosts can throw a wrench in standard powerscaling.
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    Has Goku ever intentionally lied?

    There was one instance in the Oozaru Baby fight where SSJ4 Goku was practically spent, energy-wise, but wanted Baby to think otherwise. What you mainly get from Goku is faith in himself to overcome large gaps in power. I wouldn't put this in the same category as lying, generally speaking...
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    What's The Most Accurate List Of Power Levels?

    If anything, the debating portion of power/battle comparisons seeks accuracy moreso than a list of numbers with minimal context or analysis. Power level content -- particularly videos with large numbers contained in bars -- can be flashy and entertaining, but it's more like a side quest of...
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    Are any DB characters scared of the dark? And does Solar flare work in the dark?

    It's doubtful a super-powered fighter would say they're scared of the dark, but lacking ki sensing or night vision in that condition against someone with such qualities would be rough, assuming the opponent could compete with them beforehand. Solar Flare came across as extremely bright from...
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    Does Frieza's Tail Being Cut Off Hinder His Power?

    It appears as though portrayal makes it a non-factor basically, given how much Frieza dwarfed him.
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    Is The Concept Of The Great Saiyaman Childish?

    He primarily uses it for local crime-fighting to be fair. He's so far above standard folks that he can neutralize them while thinking of what his next pose or speech will be. It's childish, but valuable for his side job.
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    Is Ultra Instinct Going To Be The Final Form?

    Since multiple characters are still ahead of Goku, it's possible that a new form is used to lessen or close remaining gaps. The subconscious -- which MUI is rooted in -- has been taken as far as it can go by him as per portrayal. So a new form likely focuses on boosting raw stats. And given the...
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    Is Bojack A Demon like Dabura?

    Perhaps he's just broadly part of that classification, but doesn't necessarily have anything more in common with Dabura. Like how Omega Shenron is said to be a God of Destruction, but wasn't specially associated with GoDs from 2010s DB media.
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    Most normal adult DBZ character in the real world

    I think 28th TB era Trunks could be a candidate. Not overly studious, not overly obsessed with martial arts, and -- even from a younger age -- was conscious of holding back when deemed appropriate.
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    Super Tien vs GT

    Rilldo slaps him. Tien's done well for himself relatively speaking, but still wasn't portrayed to be that special overall.
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