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  1. Dagon

    Teen Gohan vs CG Goku

    Basically a safe bet is the more or less the average between Babidi Saga Vegeta and Babidi saga Goku. Babidi saga Vegeta: 75 Cell Games Gohan: 86-88 Babidi saga Goku: 100
  2. Dagon

    Steel Manning Grade 3 Trunks = 10x Androids Saga SSJ Trunks

    Why for each of those points? I did make multiple iterations to boost 50% Goku to account for different points of view.
  3. Dagon

    Teen Gohan vs CG Goku

    Thinking about it again, assuming Vegeta kept the same gap against Goku as they had at the Cell Games, a safe bet is Cell Games Gohan at the midpoint between the two.
  4. Dagon

    Teen Gohan vs CG Goku

    At least within a competitive distance to Cell Games Gohan since he questioned which of them was stronger since Gohan stopped training while he had been training.
  5. Dagon

    Teen Gohan vs CG Goku

    The baseline is more so being stronger than expected Vegeta because Chi-Chi says between Gohan and Goku the first and second place prizes would be 15 million zenni. So Gohan should at least be in second place going by expectations.
  6. Dagon

    Steel Manning Grade 3 Trunks = 10x Androids Saga SSJ Trunks

    The Legend of Manga says Grade 3 Trunks "acquired a force ten times greater" but doesn't specify what it's 10x greater than. This is an attempt to steel man the argument that it is 10x Androids Saga SSJ Trunks, comparing new and former highest forms' overall power. A benefit to this theory is...
  7. Dagon

    Fat Buu's durability and power is pretty inconsistent

    The number of blows someone uses to down someone is not always indicative of the number of blows needed to down someone. Just that it's the number of blows they used to down them.
  8. Dagon

    Fusion Formula

    Old Kai saying Gokohan may not need SSJ is perhaps a 50/50 chance that he's talking about Ultimate or base Gokohan. Maybe base Gokohan ~/< Buutenks with the rival boost pushing the weaker components somewhat higher to eclipse Ultimate Gokohan. If even Ultimate Gokohan is only a little stronger...
  9. Dagon

    What Is The Super Kamehameha Multiplier?

    If you think Goku's regular full power against Raditz is 416, then it is closer to 2.25x. Raditz measured Goku's Kamehameha at 924 which is approximately 2.22x 426. But Raditz said the power was still increasing, so a 2.25x increase to place the super kamehameha at 936 is fitting. The 1.5x...
  10. Dagon

    Buff Buu should have never existed

    I'd love to see any published content supporting that.
  11. Dagon

    Buff Buu should have never existed

    Either: 1. By Evil Buu > Pure Buu, just say Evil Buu can use the full might of Innocent Buu with Pure Buu. 2. By Pure Buu > Evil Buu, say Dai Kaioshin still had influence to subdue Buu's power, like we already do with Huge Buu.
  12. Dagon

    Good places for Dragon Ball

    The nursing home.
  13. Dagon

    PLG Power Level List

    Do you think the relative power levels in the different fights could be comparable? Like sick Goku vs 19 = SSJ Goku bs initial Metal Cooler, and so on. Not in terms of actual power levels just how they compare within each fight.
  14. Dagon

    USSJ Goku (when he first transformed in the ROSAT, no speed issues) vs ASSJ Vegeta (when he came out of the ROSAT)

    I concur with the former. Vegeta was overall stronger at least as Grade 2.
  15. Dagon

    Hypothetical Buu Saga Fight

    Either 1: they spew verbal abuse at you and you block them, which they see as a win, or 2: you listen to their verbal abuse an even get into a back and forth over it, which they still see as a win. The only smart choice is to deny them the personal satisfaction of either option.
  16. Dagon

    1st Form Freeza must be > Vegetto

    Is cirno Hitrule's dupe?
  17. Dagon

    1st Form Freeza must be > Vegetto

    @Cirno777 Thanks. If anything base Vegetto just isn't leagues ahead of Buuhan.
  18. Dagon

    1st Form Freeza must be > Vegetto

    Before Vegetto became SSJ, Buuhan said he wasn't going all out, so he may still be as strong as or stronger than base Vegetto.

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