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PART 36 Gohan, Dabura, and Zangya go to fight Buu. Babidi orders him to slaughter them, but Buu doesn't listen at first. Those are the first signs of his disobedience. Nevertheless, Buu eventually decides to fight them, just for the fun of it. Neither Gohan's increased power nor Zangya's and...

Initial - 950 vs Goku/Piccolo - 1,100 full power - 1,250

22nd TB Roshi: 13.9 22nd TB Goku (match level): 14 22nd TB Goku (full power): 16 22nd TB Tenshinhan: 16 Goku (post 22nd TB): 18 Old Piccolo (less than half): 22.5 Old Piccolo (tanking KHH): 37.5 Old Piccolo (full power): 50 Young Piccolo (initial): 75 Young Piccolo (full power): 100 Goku (post...

I theorize he was referring to effort (chi suppression hadn't been introduced yet anyway). He used 45% of his power to stomp Goku with a 1.2x-1.25x advantage, but the chi percentage he used to tank the KHH attack was much larger.

See what?

I have long since found the solution... -Farmer is 0.05 and was misread as 5 by Raditz. -Roshi was 13.9 and misread as 139 by Bulma. -BOZ Goku/Piccolo were way above 400s, which were their suppressed levels.

It's the only way for the implied gaps to fit in (BOZ Tenshinhan < Mr Popo << Kami << 23rd TB Goku << BOZ Goku). Obviously 416 was his suppressed power.

I think it remained a 1.5x in the Saiyans Saga too.

Normal KHH: 1.33x Super KHH (23rd TB): 1.5x Buff Roshi's KHH: 5x Androids Saga KHH: 5x

Yaay, I love candies.

Do you agree? -Low-class Saiyans: Less than 2,500 units of power -Middle-class Saiyans: 2,500-5,000 -High-class Saiyans: 5,000-7,500 -Elite Saiyans (nobility): 7,500-10,000 -Super elite Sayans (royalty): Over 10,000

Semi Cell stomps so hard it's not even funny.

Because he was above Shenlong in hierarchy.

But didn't he acknowledge right away that Gohan was stronger than Goku?

Depends on whether you think Gohan fought Dabura as SSJ.

I see no reason to descrease Gohan's Base/SSJ power after the 7-year gap. His lack of training just limited his access to the SSJ2 boost.

Gohan's power loss wasn't noticed before he went SSJ2. In my books, Budokai Gohan is equal to his Cell Games self in Base/SSJ.

CG Goku = 1 Cell (vs Goku) = 1.1 CG Gohan = 1.3 True speed Cell = 1.3 PM Vegeta = 1.4 Expected Goku = 1.2 Expected Gohan = 1.3

Goku might end up stronger, because he admitted Gohan would slow his progress down at first. But he wouldn't discover SSJ2 without seeing it in Gohan. The fate of the world would depend on whether Trunks has enough potential and anger to go SSJ2.

Vegeta still wants to go first. Safe to say he trains solo and doesn't care about Gohan, who doesn't have large gains. In cannon, without Goku's encouragement, Gohan didn't even believe he could go SSJ. When Vegeta exits, he lets Cell achieve his perfect form all the same. Cell kills him, since...