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That isn't a compelling enough argument. There are plenty of instances in Z and Super where disparities in strength are conveyed in an instant. The fact that Blue Goku doesn't even overpower Gohan at any moment while being claimed to be engaged in a serious fight would certainly suggest they...

That would rely on the assumption that the writers are deliberately obfuscating information that they don't want to reveal to the reader which is something that you would have to prove. From what we are told, this is not the case. Zamasu's rage in response to the Saiyans overpowering him is what...

I am merely taking the narrative as it is. Everyone says this is a serious fight between Saiyans, Gohan asks Goku to use his full strength, and Goku eventually does despite hesitating initially once backed into a corner. Goku goes Blue but is then pushed back. All of this points towards Goku...

Sorry, that's my mistake. Vegeta is the one who asks "Why isn't Zamasu's body healing" which does indicate that damage was being done. That was in response to Zamasu's body having been deformed rather than immediately healing as was the case with Future Zamasu. We notice a change in Zamasu's...

Gowasu explicitly stated that his body was "falling apart" meaning that there was damage done hence why Zamasu needed his immortality to regenerate. He couldn't regenerate because his mortal side influenced his immortality. His immortality wouldn't have been necessary had he not received any...

The instability occurred as a result of his mortal side influencing his immortality. What was Zamasu's immortality used for?

I believe we were talking about what occurred immediately after Goku overpowered Merged Zamasu with his Kamehameha. Zamasu couldn't regenerate properly from the attack because Black was also a part of him. The reason he needed to regenerate was because of Goku's attack.

This doesn't address how Gowasu's statement was in reference to how Black was influencing Zamasu's immortality which is a result of needing to regenerate from damage. The only moment where he visibly received damage was from Goku's Kamehameha. I'm not sure how your argument has anything to do...

That's not a rebuttal. We know there were defects in the fusion. Zamasu wouldn't need his immortality if he hadn't received damage. That's literally what it was used for.

You're missing the point. The reason why the mortal side was having an effect on Merged Zamasu is that he couldn't regenerate from the attack completely despite his immortality. The reason he needed to regenerate was because of Goku's attacks. This is why Gowasu concluded that Goku and Vegeta...

What complicates things is that Hit required Time Skip in addition to his other abilities to compete with Blue Goku so Super Saiyan God Goku demonstrating superior physical feats to Hit isn't enough to convince me that Blue Goku had become 50x stronger since his rematch with Hit. Naturally...

I'm talking about when Goku talks to Vegeta about who they still need to surpass. We get a flashback to Jiren and a close-up shot of Broly before we get a brief scene showing all of the GoDs.

You mean the most straightforward and consistent way of thinking? You're suggesting that questioning the authors' narrative when the message is clear is a valid interpretation but it's not. I believe I said enough to believe the narrative points in the direction of Gohan being around Goku's...

I'm not open to interpretations that constantly dance around the subject and question the narrative when it's clearly laid out in front of us. You'd need to provide actual evidence that suggests why Gohan was inferior to Blue Goku in that scene. From what we are shown, there is none. All we can...

Yeah, I watched it in both. They were mentioned as the last benchmark for Goku and Vegeta to surpass. Makes it seem like they're stronger than Broly but it's never really made clear.

No, it's really taking the narrative for what it's worth instead of coming up with your own explanations. The narrative and Goku's acknowledgment of Gohan's statement make it clear that Goku treated it as a serious fight. He was absolutely hesitant on using his full power and then ultimately had...

Honestly, after watching Super Hero, I think all of the GoDs were retconned to be above Broly.

It's too late for that. Beerus can literally one shot Broly.

Who knows. It's not really out of the ordinary, I don't think. SSJBE Vegeta presumably reached a level around Gogeta Blue by the end of the Moro arc. I think that sort of powerscaling could be expected.

That's a fair point because like you said, Frieza knew about fusion but had no issues leaving the two alive. Frieza likely does need to be stronger than Gogeta to warrant that kind of confidence unless he has a special ability that we aren't aware of.