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  1. Pyro

    How strong was the Dai Kaio Shin before sealing Moro?

    But the arc itself implies magic makes a fighter much stronger, doesn't it? Moro was physically weaker than Super Saiyan Blue but could beat them with his magic allowed. Same with Dabura and Gohan, and Babidi and Kaioshin.
  2. Pyro

    How much stronger is Broly LSSJ over Jiren (Beyond Limits)?

    It's unavoidable that Beerus is way stronger than Belmod and it'll keep getting bigger as the series continues. We just use the statements and feats given. It's stated SSJ Broly is stronger than anybody Freeza's encountered. Ultra Instinct exists in both continuities of Super so it wouldn't be...
  3. Pyro

    How much stronger is Broly LSSJ over Jiren (Beyond Limits)?

    When Broly turns Super Saiyan and makes that huge explosive wave, Freeza thinks to himself that nobody could beat him. He doesn't know Goku can't use Ultra Instinct at will so he would logically be including him.
  4. Pyro

    How much stronger is Broly LSSJ over Jiren (Beyond Limits)?

    SSJ Broly is stronger than UI Goku, who's stronger than Jiren, by a decent amount at minimum (according to Freeza). SSJ Gogeta was slightly advantaged against SSJ Broly at best, so you apply the Blue boost on top of Super Saiyan and you get the difference between SSJFP Broly and Jiren. It's...
  5. Pyro

    Why was Seven-Three (With Moro's powers) so weak?

    Only on Namek. If Seven-Three had Earth Moro's power he would have been equal to UI Sign Goku, which was not the case as he got beat by Android 17 who couldn't faze initial Saganbo, who PSSB Goku crapped on.
  6. Pyro

    Why was Seven-Three (With Moro's powers) so weak?

    Seven-Three was using Prime Moro's Namek power, which paled in comparison to the power he had when he came to Earth, as Moro himself admitted. Hell, a "smidgen" of his post-Namek power given to Saganbo was enough to heavily outclass all the Z gang and even come close to an Angel-trained PSSB...
  7. Pyro

    Fill your ToP Manga levels

    Why is Golden Freeza that much stronger than Goku and Vegeta? Why is 17 STRONGER than Goku and Vegeta, even if you used the "almost as strong as us" line...? Fucking christ, jabroni.
  8. Pyro

    Pre ROSAT SSJGr2 Vegeta vs #18

    She outlasts him even with a small power disadvantage.
  9. Pyro

    Was Future Vegeta a SSJ vs #17 and 18?

    Daizenshuu 6 is for the movies, you doughnut bum. Doesn't count for the manga.
  10. Pyro

    Dragon Ball Question

    Got it. Then I agree. Back then, I wouldn't have thought he was dozens of times stronger for sure. Neither did the people working on the manga.
  11. Pyro

    Dragon Ball Question

    Why would UE Vegeta be stronger than Beerus when beforehand, Beerus was still much stronger than UI Goku and we know he can also use UE? It would have been true even without Toyotaro's confirmation.
  12. Pyro

    Dragon Ball Question

    No, he is not. The anime does not matter one bit when talking about the manga continuity. Beerus and Quitela are shown to be the strongest and the author himself said Beerus is still stronger than Granolah, who became the strongest mortal in Universe 7.
  13. Pyro

    Dragon Ball Question

    He always was. Beerus and Quitela were the two strongest gods shown in the battle royale. Jiren was only stronger than Belmod and Belmod is one of the weaker gods. Broly was stated to be stronger than Jiren. Moro was stated to be stronger than Broly and Jiren. Beerus was stated to be stronger...
  14. Pyro

    Empty

    Yeah, you're trolling. Your reasoning is nonsense and you blatantly ignore shit. Moving on.
  15. Pyro

    Empty

    You said the list is perfect, thus there's no need for us to do anything but admire it. I forgot to say that in my post.
  16. Pyro

    Empty

    Ah, yeah, forgot to mention that in my response.
  17. Pyro

    Empty

    Videl pre-training is already on par with her father. Chapter: 424 (DBZ 230), P14.2 Context: as Videl easily beats up the big robber Gohan: “Heh~~This is surprising! She really is pretty strong…She might just be stronger than Mister Satan.” And you have Videl and Satan multiple times stronger...
  18. Pyro

    Dragon Ball Super: Super Hero

    Eh, the more things change, the more they stay the same. Movies today still have worse CGI than movies 30 years ago.
  19. Pyro

    Dragon Ball Super: Super Hero

    PS2 is still epic.
  20. Pyro

    Beerus = Kaioken SSJB Goku

    Oh yeah, that. Guess it really is a retcon.
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