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Vegeta knows that 17 could see.

Base Goten and Trunks are already on par with 18/17 level, they then improve hugely and are still behind Piccolo. Piccolo cannot be 17 level since that would occupy the space the Pre-Rosat boys are, Piccolo is beyond even the Post-Rosat boys.

Since when is Super non-canon? Why would your interpretation supersede Toyotarou’s? Is he stronger than Majin Buu? What’s the point of resurrecting Majin Buu if he can’t even beat Dabura?

Yeah, I'm considering this option now.

Yes, everything that leads up to Base Gotenks or suggests Base Gotenks power other than them being above the Super Saiyan kids is all set up for a gag. Which would include Trunks and Goten's conversation in the Rosat. After Piccolo says "We're doomed", there is a repeat panel of Goten giggling...

I used to think this would go to Post Absorption Cell, but the more I think about it, that doesn't make sense. In a few days, Cell is able to gain that power, shouldn't Future Cell, who has ample time, be able to match it at least? Sure, most of the humans are dead, but certainly a few hundred...

Could be and he does look super jakked. Trunks definitely is helping rebuild the world, just as he's always been and was in all iterations. He's not just sitting around doing nothing and then training.

Vegeta's comment to 17 before heading out to ToP should seal the deal on this. The source material indicates that Kid Trunks pre-ToP is as strong as Future Trunks is as the CG. We also have no indications that the boys have lost any power. What's more likely seems to be that they have maintained...

It's what the source material implies. Super Saiyan Kid Trunks (Pre ToP) = Super Saiyan Future Trunks (Cell Games) Why would our own imaginations trump the source material? Base Gotenks Post > Ssj3 Goku > Base Gotenks Pre > Ssj2 Goku is implied if you take the claims seriously. So Super...

Whatever concern he held for Goku and Gohan he holds for Goku and Vegeta as well.

You think he's training as intensely as Vegeta is though? Even with all of his duties?

Agreed, but even if they were full power, they didn't have time to fuse. Both against Janemba and Broly, they went to a secluded place to fuse, and messed up twice. It wouldn't have worked against Kid Buu, or Buuhan.

His absurd confidence is what is a gag, AT made the claims obvious enough to not be taken seriously

Thank you. Once I said hey, all this Base Gotenks stuff is just for fun, you can't take it serious, things started to make sense. Just an FYI. Perhaps AT made these claims so over the top that no one would actually think they were legit.

There's no real time to fuse. Vegeta doesn't know fusion.

There's still a huge gap between Gogeta and Vegetto during this time, but only because of Vegeta lacking behind Goku. Gogeta, despite being tremendously behind Vegetto here, is still stronger than even Buuhan. I think that's what makes the most sense. Gogeta's aura literally fills up like...

He jakked tho

Yeah, Super Buu is still within the rivaling range, he's quite close, but Gohan blows him out of the water.

How come Gotenks doesn't shake Majin Buu's throne of being the mightiest?

It's been 3 years since he was Cell Jr level. He looks jakked. Is he Goku CG level yet?