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I just said that she's saying that might be the case in theory. Nothing that she said was definitive. She uses a lot of ''perhaps'' and ''might'' in her statements. Clearly she was proven wrong.

So are we just going to ignore this?

She’s the ideal warrior in theory but it doesn’t mean she could beat Jiren or whatever. Nothing that Vados said was supposed to be definitive.

The potato fusion wasn’t a huge power boost in comparison to Kale. She got stronger but it was other attributes that mainly improved. Goku - 10 Gohan/Kefla - 9 #17 - 8 Kale - 6

A well placed Kamehameha could take him out I feel.

Skill and strategy can allow you to work around that issue. Piccolo would have beaten #17 at the end of the day when they fought.

Then I guess he's stronger than #17, just not by much.

I'm talking about ToP Gohan so I'm not sure what the Moro arc has to do with anything.

Because that's the point of the statement.

I think Gyumao crushes this dude.

Around Chapter 945.

I think my explanation seems pretty solid.

You make a good case for it. I'll admit that it's at least a possibility.

He's a swordsman himself so of course he would have more respect for Zoro's potential.

Technically yes he's commending his ambition but I don't think he means Zoro was actually tapping into that power.

It's not about him being threatened. He displayed an attack that he initially believed was above his skill level. He saw his potential as a swordsman and that's why he let him live.

Guys, I never said it was consistent. I'm just saying that it was what the story implied. Toyo isn't going to display his narrative on how well Black can take the blows from Vegeta or whatever.

No because we are talking about different characters with different contexts in this case.

He underestimated his talent.

Then why did Hyogoro even mention the use of swords if it had nothing to do with it.