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Vegetto and Gogeta aren't different persons from Goku and Vegeta to each other to begin with, so it also accounts for that. Goku's comments also reaffirm that, which he doesn't consider himself as a different person from Vegetto.

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Gohan stated that Goku's energy has grown larger than ever before, which Goku reconfirms: One can say that Gohan has never seen Vegetto. However Piccolo seems to be aware of how Gohan got absorbed despite of him being absorbed within Buu: So, what do you think?

Buu initially doesn't believe Vegetto has surpassed him: Buu gets the best out of him and initially give him the Kid Buu - SSJ2 Vegeta treatment: Vegetto came out unaffected, but take into account that in similar instances such as Base Goku vs Frieza or Perfect Cell vs SSJ Gohan, characters...

@HunterR18 And? Goku in Namek had little to no energy to face Frieza, yet he could fight as if nothing in SSJ, same with Goku vs Cooler. What makes impossible for Gohan happening the same to him? By Gohan's own admission it was not easy to defeat him.

@HunteR18 For Gohan it was not easy to defeat Bojack as stated by himself and we have seen how he got tired after defeating him.

@FeatsofPower Actually, Nail Piccolo is far below Base Saiyans in the Namek arc and Vegeta considered impossible for a Namekian to be that strong, so Piccolo's potential come from the people he fuses with. Having say that, Piccolo could have been close to base form at most due to how limited...

@Hector Which form of Namek Goku Piccolo is equal to? Base? Kaioken? SSJ? EDIT: I misunderstand your point. You don't have to answer it.

They're clearly weaker than Majin Vegeta & SSJ2 Goku as their strongest fighter is SSJ2 Gohan, don't know why to include SSJ3 Gotenks into all of this.

This is just talking about the OVA itsellf, not taking into account the manga. I personally think that: SSJ Vegeta >= SSJ Namek Goku (likely stronger than 5th form Cooler) Piccolo (at max) = in between Post Zenkai Vegeta and Initial Final Form Frieza

At the end of the movie it is said that Gohan could easily defeat the same guy who not even Vegeta and Piccolo could stand up against, and before of that, that a match between Gohan and Trunks would be awesome (by Goku). With all of this is safe to assume that Gohan, Trunks, Piccolo and Vegeta...

I have: Base Bojack ~ Suppressed Cell (vs Gohan) FP Bojack ~ FP Perfect Cell But, what do you think?

I don't think it exists a differintiation between ki and power; when we are told that Cell's ki has dropped against Goku, we know that he got weaker, when we are told that Gohan's ki didn't drop against Cell it is undestand that he is still as the same, when it is said that Buu's ki never drop...

Definitely the gap between Hatchiyack and Vegeta has to be quite bigger. Hatchiyack > LSSJ Broly > RSSJ Broly > SSJ Goku > Super Vegeta. I would compare more Hatchiyack's feat with 2nd form Frieza receiving Vegeta's blast from behind. This just assuming is the original OVA and not the...

Interesting to see this:

All we know is that Gohan is far weaker than his CG self and a 25% gap is a stomp considering Kkx3 Goku vs Vegeta, I think something like this can work: Buu Saga Goku/Majin Vegeta = 100 Kid Gohan = 93 Vegeta pre boost = 83 Gohan = 73

Trunks has short hair similar to in the Perfect Cell arc: Hatchiyack formation is similar to Cell reaching his perfect form: Perfect Cell arc Goku in relation to Hatchiyack OVA Goku: Goku is the one still standing (meaning he is the strongest) and Broly is being used as benchmark which...

I don't have Majin Vegeta that much stronger than Gohan, at most: Majin Vegeta = 100 Gohan= 73 Majin Vegeta fatigued (hypothetical)= 27 Buu is pretty close to Gohan's full power. Also the usage of this formula is quite subjective. I still think Vegeta would win hardly, but would do it.

I just don't know what kind of reasoning you're wanting to get with that. Is it said that Fatigued Majin Vegeta is Majin Vegeta - SSJ2 Gohan power? If it is by that formula, for sure Vegeta end up being weaker than Buu.

No, what implies that?