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The whole point about this is that Vegeta thinks that Buu will no longer be a threat if he were to be that Buu, something which Kid Buu was. Hmmm no, he never thought he could beat him on his own, he just says that he looks like a midget and that they'll end him this time (which is ambiguous as...

I mean, why would Vegeta make fun of one Buu, while giving respect twice to the other one and acknowledging his power if they actually were equals? Chapter: 507 (DBZ 313), P7.3-6 Context: Vegeta grabs Boo's pod and wonder what will happens if he pulls it out Vegeta: "This'll be fun...Will you...

But, how much serious does he needs to be? Of course, I think he was using great levels of effort because otherwise Super Buu's estimations on what he would need to surpass Gohan doesn't make sense, neither it would make sense for him to realize that Gohan was actually stronger than him. Gohan...

In my case, I don't think it makes that much sense for Freeza to obbey Beerus, and it makes sense he just destroyed it because of his own fear. But, what do you think?

Well, thanks a lot for commenting after a long time hehehe... I thought this post would have been inactive forever. EDIT: I wanted to avoid using the Majin Buu Saga considering that is the case that is more frequently used when it comes down to this. Also, I wanted to use Vegeta vs 4th form...

One-shot with a charged attack or a Kamehameha? Even SSJ3 Gotenks could do that.

@Goku9001 I agree the scriptors doesn't think the same way you're portraying to, on their mind, Ssj Blue Goku vs Ultimate Gohan was just a motivation on Goku's part, Gohan's true performance is only shown when he got oneshotted by Kaioken Goku. In Z, 18 had a short exchange with Ssj Goten and...

No, it isn't saying something new... "Zamasu and Black used the power of their Potara to fuse together. ...and become a god filled with light. Goku and friends fought bravely, but Zamasu displayed overwhelming power." = Zamasu didn't show anything new, at least something Goku Black couldn't do...

Then he wanted to enjoy himself when Gohan was already weakened.

Or that the narrator simply conducts the audience for what is believed to be the case, not for what actually is. The narrator as you said: Is tell us that Goku's Kamehameha is beginning to bear down on Zamasu, is not up to him to decide this as is still something that haven't happened. Yet the...

Like when? Just because of a trade of blows it relies on how a character compares with another? Ssj Blue Goku traded blows with Jiren on 122, yet he was still under him on terms of power. Saying that Goku was overpowered or outmatched is just your conclussion of the fight based on a superficial...

Personal feelings? Do you really think I care about this stuff? If you don't give an straight answer to this, yer just making another claim without basis which is basically how you portray yourself most of the times. Questioning wouldn't be adequate more like analyzing things properly and not...

Prove what? The narrator isn't unfallible; I have given many examples on how he was proven wrong, Mai didn't die against Goku Black, neither Beerus ever used his full power against Goku, it's pretty much as clear as day that he is limited from what we have observed or have notion of. We are...

Judging things by perspective and ignoring information that can oppose to your way of thinking. I'm fine with that.

And that later explanations or facts can oppose to what the narrator says, the narrator had previously given us things that is portrayed to not be the case, so he can also transmit wrong information, is on us to analyze things properly, is not matter of believing to be better than the scriptors...

No, they already portrayed how Goku felt in need to use Kaioken by his own will and a context pretty well constructed on his match with Hit. Ssj Blue Goku vs Ultimate Gohan was intended to be a motivation by the scriptors alone, but considering that you believe so purely that your headcanon is...

Was that when he was already weakened or before the fight began? Because Buu stated that he has to be quick due to Gotenks' time limit prior to began to fighting.

Actually, I think this fight it could go either way and depends on how good Vegeta plays his cards on him. Vegeta has already seen Ssj Blue Goku overpowering Hit's pocket dimension so all he has to do is managing to resist his punches and maybe firing a charged Final Flash to get him off the arena.

Yes, because he doesn't think big of them and was always thinking he is superior no matter what, him being angry towards Vegeta, Trunks or Goku is passable as he has a big ego and doesn't tolerate losing no matter what, that and his character relies pn exagerating things a whole lot. Yes, the...

I agree, the writers can tell that Gohan is oneshot material for Kaioken Goku, they just don't cared about showing a fight between Ssj Blue Goku and Ultimate Gohan in which we can make proper conclusions.