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In Piccolo's mind: -Buu hasn't fought anyone as strong as Gotenks. Okay, until then: there is no issue. -Proceeds to say that his strength is at least on par with him and then says he is getting flustered, as if nobody had fought on par with him. And then we have "I wanted them to manage things...

"I hope so" is far from meaning "you're completely right", if anything is something based more on emotion than reason. Don't really care about what the anime have to say, though. And afterwards, he said that he wanted them to manage something one way or another, therefore, he wasn't sure of his...

But aren't able to tell that SSJ3 Goku can defeat Fat Buu? I mean, Piccolo stating that Buu has never fought anyone as strong as Gotenks and that his strength is at least on par with him (in Viz said being his equal) complicate things a little bit. All of this from Piccolo's perspective, though...

Krillin says that from the perspective that "Goku said Fusion was the strongest", not because he actually believed it, also Piccolo shows little to not enthusiasm to what Krillin suggest. Gotenks has nothing that can actually compare to SSJ3 Goku, specially considering that he at least have...

@FeatsofPower Considering that Piccolo never observed Fat Buu fighting SSJ3 Goku that is another point in favour to how Gotenks is more impressive in his mind.

Vegeta couldn't sense ki, but he can grasp SSJ3 Goku observing his movements similar to how he did with Android 19 and Dabura.

I have always view MSSJ as the same multiplier as x50, but with better stamina and control of the form.

If anything, I'm not disagreeing with this. Yes, he preserved the SSJ God Powers and remained within himself, but that's his internal power, as any other form of the SSJ actually is. Also, the quote you're giving it also can be explained by how he preserved the transformation and why he can make...

I can't give you a straight answer. Even though, I think there's hardly anything to quantify from both fights, Buu wasn't completely defeated until Beerus thrown him to Gohan, he still kept coming back whereas Gotenks seems to be defeated easier in relation.

What I think is that is a pretty weird case; Piccolo should know that if Gotenks' power is incredible, his speed also is. 3rd form and 4th form Freeza's cases already has shown him how incredible increases power and speed can offer after getting a power up, especially when he understimated his...

You can't speak for everyone... There is no confirmation and it's a vague statement at best. 3rd form Freeza's case, as well as him being unable to watch 4th form Freeza's attacks already disproven Piccolo's notion that speed doesn't correlate with power, especially when it comes to a power up...

Even though, he called Base Gotenks incredible before? Chapter: 480 (DBZ 286), P11.4-5 Context: after Piccolo says to try Fusion again, as Super Saiyans Gotenks: “Hehhehheh…Aren’t you underestimating me? Like this, I’m more than enough to defeat Majin Boo.” Piccolo: “Yo-you idiot! What are you...

Both Pre Rosat. Who wins?

Piccolo can immediately tell when the failed fusions appeared, as well as they doesn't seem to be anything impressive. So, also Piccolo can't tell how powerful Gotenks is in relation to Goten and Trunks to not realize that the fusion was either a successful or a failure? Goku isn't trying to...

Because the SSj God power still remained with himself and was preserved at that point, he didn't get any weaker from that because he was still taping into that power. Now if, you are willing to say that Goku breath while having god powers, then you are also in need to say that SSj God Goku can...

Goku is struggling because no hands Freeza is still superior to him, but he ain't outclassed at the point in which he can't manage to touch him (he could touch his tail), break his deffense or also make Freeza felt in need to use his tail. SSJ Vegetto didn't go all out at any point of the fight...

I don't think he was holding back, at least there is no indication of that. Gotenks Buu doesn't seem to imply that being the case either.

Hmmm no, Goku actually could destroy his deffense, something which Gohan Buu can't do with SSJ Vegetto, as well as Good Buu with Kid Buu. Possibly Piccolo could've done it but choose to destroy his hands due to the energy absorption (therefore, we will never get an straight answer). Kid Buu...

Piccolo stomps, Sick Goku is nothing special and it's getting weaker and weaker. Even though, I don't think Piccolo has gained all that confidence until Gero's fight as he was pretending to be defeated by Gero before of that, as well as he didn't decided to confront him after discovering he...

The fact that Goku could fight as a SSJ with a Suppressed Beerus whereas SSJ3 Goku got twoshotted. Hmmm yes, Enraged Vegeta's power was greater than SSJ3 Goku, there's no issue with that. Problem is, that Vegeta and Goku were said to be potential challenge for Beerus in the future, their max...