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  1. Dagon

    Boo saga Goten and Trunks ~ CGs Trunks and Vegeta

    I think it is a reasonable placement. Future Trunks used SSJ to kill future 17 and 18, so his base likely wasn't quite into one-shot territory against them, which is likely what he wanted to do. With base kid Trunks matching present 18 who is stronger than future 18 to a small or moderate degree...
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    What's The Highest Numbered Power Level That A Scouter Can Read?

    Old scouters break at over 22,000. New model scouters aren't said to have a limit but quick power-ups break them like when Freeza's scouter broke when reading Vegeta's power rise to match his. Anime filler has a big computer on one of Freeza's planets able to read 100% Freeza's power but...
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    Best battle powers ever

    I disagree with the whole list as it is an appeal to minimalism.
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    Did Trunks SSJ2 equal SSJ3 Goku’s power?

    I think Goku used SSJG so he could one-shot Trunks as he initially thought SSJ3 would be enough. I think the upgraded SSJ2 power should be 3.5x SSJ2 which aligns with the statements. SSJ2 Goku: 100 SSJ2 Trunks: 105 Upgraded SSJ2 Trunks: 367.5 SSJ3 Goku: 400
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    Movie 10 Scalling

    I said I think Broly is a rival to Majin Buu not precisely equal.
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    Movie 10 Scalling

    Which is irrelevant because I'm not saying SSJ2 Goku in movie 11 is stronger than Fat Buu. He's just close enough to Broly to subdue him with Pikkon's help. Seems that you're reading a very specific idea into what I'm saying that I'm not actually saying.
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    If Cabba or…

    One character looking like another across universes doesn't mean it needs to apply universally, it just did in that one instance.
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    If Cabba or…

    You've just been stating opinions.
  9. Dagon

    Movie 10 Scalling

    You've not given any concrete reasons. Really comes off as argument from incredulity.
  10. Dagon

    How would Buu Saga non fused Base Saiyans fare in the Cell Arc (My Opinion)

    Seems ok. We don't get much about the kids' power. The Gotenks power gains could be independent of the kids or it could mean the kids powered up to power up Gotenks in the RoSaT, so there's that.
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    If Cabba or…

    Dragon Ball doesn't have to operate by the common multiverse trope that counterparts look alike.
  12. Dagon

    Movie 10 Scalling

    You're really just making stuff up.
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    If Cabba or…

    Kale doesn't look like Broly either beyond long black hair.
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    Movie 10 Scalling

    That's very arbitrary. Like what, does a cosmic law of the universe stop them from achieving a higher power without Super Saiyan 3? What you are saying is like saying any power higher than 60 million requires Super Saiyan because Goku only surpassed 60 million with Suoer Saiyan initially. So no...
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    Broly gap over the Kamehameha

    Kaio-Ken + KHH from base could work, it would just make the overall blast a teeny bit stronger.
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    Movie 10 Scalling

    Because?
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    Movie 10 Scalling

    I have Broly slightly weaker than Fat Buu which can still be in range of movie-canon SSJ2s and Pikkon. So Majin Buu is still past the SSJ2 threshold, but movie SSJ2s can be closer to that range. Sorry, my phone crapped out and wouldn't show the updated page.
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    Movie 10 Scalling

    Movie Saiyans can scale differently from canon Saiyans.
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    Movie 10 Scalling

    Innocent Buu is temporary to me. The restored Mr. Buu is at least as strong as his pre-fission self I think now. I think Koyama would be referring to a stable version of Buu.
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    Broly gap over the Kamehameha

    Movie 8? Tank gaps are not entirely clear but by movie logic it should be around 1.4-1.5x because in Movie 5 5th Form Cooler was unaffected by a x20 Kamehameha and then SSJ Goku could tank 5th form Cooler. So 5th form Cooler being around 1.4-1.5x the x20 KHH and then SSJ Goku being around...

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