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Broly should rival one Buu from Koyama's opinion which is at least more reasonable than having him stronger than Vegetto, and at least not making Broly much weaker to contradict all of Koyama's opinions of Broly. The movies are a different reality so their SSJ2s can be stronger than canon if...

It's pretty straightforward. Trunks as a kid in the present time is equally as strong as the version of Trunks that 17 is familiar with as rhetorically asked by Vegeta.

I'll say m10 Broly is a rival to fat Buu.

Their entire focus in the Buu saga was fusion. Once Battle of Gods happened they were just left behind by they much. I just don't think they should be weakened to the degree that RoF Gohan had been since them weakening was never made into a significant plot point.

Caulifla is Goku's counterpart. Look past her being a girl and it makes sense, just as Kale is Broly's counterpart. She learns new forms way too easily just like Goku used to learn new things that took others a long time to master, she has a love for fighting, and she has a kind of flipped...

Are we seriously just making up an imaginary scenario with no supporting evidence?

I think they would at least stagnate as they aren't very focused on training but they still spar with each other at times. Their power levels are not super explicitly stated without Vegeta's statement here, so them being Cell Games Trunks level all along can still work.

Why make them weaker? Do you think they surpassed Cell Games SSJ level prior? Or do you mean to weaken them to androids saga SSJ level?

He's talking about the Future Trunks that 17 is aware of. As a kid(present kid Trunks) he's equally as strong.

Depends on if you go by the theory that Movie 11 is marooned in its own timeline or if it is part of Movie 12's timeline. If the former then Goku could use SSJ3 but if the latter only Majin Buu made Goku use SSJ3.

That is HunterR18's opinion. Not something from scans.

He doesn't like to answer power scaling questions. I think you need to be indirect to sneak past his anti-power scaling questions filter. Like ask whether Goku was using invisible Kaio-Ken against form 4 Cooler or if it was normal Goku. And ask if Goku used Kaio-Ken x20 later.

Could be a skill issue. Broly did land solid hits in base Gohan.

The problem is that Toei has a penchant for nonsensical base Saiyan fights just for the sake of giving base Saiyans something to do. Just look at base Goku vs Ikari Broly. I mean seriously, Goku says Fat Janemba has the greatest ki he ever felt and proceeds to fight in base just because.

But it's trained Gohan so that can change things.

Koyama slo thinks the difference between "Majin Buu" and Broly will be slight, so take that for what it's worth.

It really was. The original Japanese text: トランクスの強さは知っているだろう?ガキでも強さは同じだ安心しろ Romanization: "Torankusu no tsuyosa wa shitte iru darou? Gaki demo tsuyosa wa onaji da, anshin shiro." Translation to English: "You know how strong Trunks is, right? Even as a kid, his strength is the same, so...

One thing to note is that Koyama said on X/Twitter that they were under the impression that Gohan had continued to train when Movie 10 was written. This probably lines up with the manga chapters not explicitly saying Gohan was weaker until the showing of SSJ2 at the tournament.

They write "Freeza" in DBS in the pre-ToP episodes. Perhaps Gero was using the Germanic spelling.

Use Google lens at least.