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I must say at page 2 or so of this thread I got terribly confused about what was being argued about but I still found it to be a fascinating read. Everyone here is quite persuasive I think so good job.

Kaioshin was too high on opioids to care.

You can say this to almost any topic anyone can make relating to Dragon Ball. I made the thread for the speculation.

This special was released thirteen years after the end of the manga, and twelve years after the last film, Path to Power. It was also released five years before Battle of Gods. I think given all this it was really cool at the time since it seemed everyone wanted a new series then. I remember...

I'd rather have someone salt my hemmorhoid.

Why me? My only Kanzenshuu account is banned and they seem strict in allowing new accounts.

Vegeta's character in GT is interesting. Too bad everyone has regressed and been permanently stunted in Super so they can continue forever. :Dolltaki

Baby inadvertently facilitating Goku's transformation by wishing for his own planet is brilliant. This so far is honestly one of my favourite arcs in the franchise.

There is no other Goku but Sean Schemmel.

@Fantastische Hure I finished One Piece

The Rock!

Wow!

Do you think Gokan could defeat a hypothetical Boogeta?

For me it seems more logical to assume that Gokan would be stronger since Gohan >>> Vegeta, but I have no idea how strong the rival boost is meant to be.

Your post leads me to believe there's ambiguity and no definitive answer.

I guess I agree with you, but Trunks, Goten and even Kid Goku being SSJ kinda set the expectation that Pan achieving it would be inevitable.

Why Gokan<Vegetto?

Live action