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If you look at the Toppo fight, the way they potrayed SSG makes it seem like a lot more than just a mere double increase or something.

Gogeta Blue being only a smidgen above SSJ Gogeta :punk

How the fuck is Blue only 10x stronger than SSJ.

Cause it is.

I think SSB just continously drops in power at a rapid pace. Toyo just has the writing talent of a grade schooler which is why it's needlessly convoluted.

The bloat some people have is crazy. Yeah, Beerus is being unshamefully forced as a goal post. For what reason would that warrant jumping the gun and say he's literally dozens of times stronger than Goku and Vegeta? Let's all take deep breaths.

I'm not sure whether it's simply a redesign or deliberate, but SSB has a different aura before Rosat and after.

That statement likely means Beerus specifically. Not all Gods of Destruction have to rival each other in power.

The post-Super Hero chapters have piqued my interest enough that I decided to start reading it with more intent now, and I went back on recent chapters and arcs to try to stay in touch with current material. I won't promise more activity though, especially when I'll likely drop it again if...

Regardless, the point is that it can't be denied that Cell Max was extremely powerful even with his premature birth giving him the mind of an infantile, and yet still proved to be stronger than Jiren who has spent countless decades honing his skill and strength to reach that level. Give Cell Max...

Please tell me you don't think Zoro and Yamato > admiral.

The thing is that Ki and mindset aren't mutually exclusive. The latter can act as an amplifer for the former. That's essentially how Goku was able to level up his Ul Omen to such an absurd degree that it surpasses his previous silver form UI. This played a very small to almost nonexistant...

That statement is made by Toriyama, the manga scaling is most likely entirely concocted by Toyo. Toriyama probably doesn't even buy into the Beerus wank. But for the sake of discussion, let's just assume this applies to the manga continuity as well. 1. There's a statement literally in the same...

It's not about ''still'' being at best equal to Broly and Vegetto. Broly and Vegetto were always that powerful.

It's established that Broly isn't able to go SSJ at will. The wish doesn't take into account hidden power.

Based on what exactly?

He got upscaled but that doesn't mean the statement can't still be applicable.

Vegetto is stronger than Beerus.

Incredible.