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Eh, Houken will always be the strongest (probably) but he’d lose to the likes of Renpa and Ouki cause of his lack of “weight”. And as a combatant I could see Shibashou comparable to those two.

Nice. Also did you read the recent chapters? Pretty big war just started.

Zoro and Lucci are about equal in the recent chapter so I think we can safely say Luffy was just playing around lol.

I watched all 8 episodes and I found it to be quite solid. I do believe some of the things they cut kind of made the arcs less impactful than the manga (Baratie and Arlong Park), but they did what they could with the time they had. I quite liked what they did with Orange Town. Maybe even...

Yeah I know, it wasn't against you lol. I'm not actually suggesting the gap is big. I don't think Gear 5 is even that massive of a boost to be honest (aside from when he uses his strongest attacks)

Kizaru = Completely unscathed and casual G4 Luffy = Sweating/Battle damaged/forced into G5 The chapter speaks for itself lol.

Oh come on, Luffy was completely defensless from that strike.

G4 Luffy was exchanging blows with Kaido still, so it's pretty impressive lol.

Kizaru was really tossing around current Gear 4 Luffy lol.

Favorite character outside of Qin?

I can see Luffy being shown to have a slight edge to show how far he's come since Sabaody.

Damn, we’re finally getting Luffy vs Admiral

Tbf, anybody who isn't stoic or a top tier seem to suffer from the disorder to some degree.

Oh yeah, I’m not contesting that. I could see him being no. 2 or 3. But he’s still the one the one in charge of the overarching planning when it comes to campaigns, isn’t he? The Six Generals are there to be at the front of it. But I get what your saying.

Looking back, most of Toriyama's humor is quite cringy for someone who is a gag writer first and foremost. But it may be a product of the times as well as a cultural difference. Oda's comedy is lightyears ahead, especially Pre-TS.

Fake news. That doesn't mean what you're suggesting, boy.

Just going back reading through this thread. But… Shouheikun as the most intelligent strategist? Better than Ousen? Idk about that my dude.

I wouldn't compare the two. The Nika reveal is a much more significant reveal as it recontextualizes what we thought we knew about Luffy's powers and as an individual.

Wonder what’s gonna happen with this Youka dude lol.

After over a year, how do we still feel about it? I quite like Gear 5 as a form, and I'm not super bothered by the Mythical Zoan/Sun God reveal. I simply hate the lack of foreshadowing to it, literally only referenced during the raid itself. And the way Luffy achieved it was the definition of...