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In the case he were to obtain the journal, yes, but only in that case it seems. Krieg had overconfidence in his weaponry due to being unchallenged prior to Mihawk and believed Zeff's notes would provide a safe passage through the Grand Line. He most likely believed he could overcome it via his weaponry if not caught off-guard through having not seen the full capabilities of Mihawk, though without the log, it seems he'd have definitely resigned himself to East Blue like Arlong when lacking a safe passage through the GL.
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Captain Cadaver said:To be fair, most later translations (as well as some level of retconning in Part 2) show Yosaku was referring to their rank rather than power.Kenshi said:Arlong's ambition being to merely rule a backwater like East Blue when he was allegedly once on Jimbei's level is
That'd still make him No. 2 among Fishmen which is a bit of an odd placement for a guy who was an ant to Alabasta Crocodile.
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Even assuming power was the main factor in the ranking, it's not too hard to imagine when aside from Tiger, Jimbei and Aladine, the rest of the Sun Pirates consist of Arlong's lackeys and what are essentially background characters.Kenshi said:
I do agree though that the absolute difference in power between the top members and the rest is absurd and certainly shows the weakness of Oda trying to put a cap on characters and organisations he introduced or made mention of and is one of the major problems in power scaling from the later arcs of Part 1 and entirety of Part 2, in much the same way Beerus' power is essentially retconned with each arc in Super; making it seem as though Fisher Tiger put no effort in organising his crew. That, and Arlong having seemingly no skill in Fishman Karate when constantly around Jimbei and Aladine when even Koala could learn it from someone like Hack is just embarrassing
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Yeah, that's kinda of like what I was getting at before, I guess. OK that they're only threats to East Blue, but still, pirates like Don Krieg and Arlong getting cocky sounds very strange when they are ants to the overall word. Literal ants. If the marine took them a little more serious, it could have caught them. I think it's mentioned only the 30,000,000+ worth bounties get the attention of the headquarters, but still.
Is Wapol the 1st one to call Luffy by Straw Hat? Seems to be the case.
Is Wapol the 1st one to call Luffy by Straw Hat? Seems to be the case.
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Krieg's arrogance makes sense when his military might had gone unchallenged prior to Mihawk and that still left his overall knowledge of the Grand Line limited enough that there's some believability from his mindset that conquering it would be accomplishable with Zeff's logs and the preparation they'd provide. Arlong's arrogance makes sense as he's not being so when faced with Grand Line pirates, but the low hanging fruit of East Blue, which makes sense as he wants a false sense of superiority to humans to cope with the losses he'd endured in the Sun Pirates.ahill1 said:
In Krieg's case, yes. Arlong was actively bribing the Marines to keep quiet though.
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I think that Krieg also mentioned that Mihawk's feat of cutting down their ships should denote a devil fruit from Mihawk, which they could learn how to deal with if they got Zeff's writings.
Funnily enough, in the anime Zeff offered Luffy to take his log with him, while he said nothing of the sort in the manga.
Funnily enough, in the anime Zeff offered Luffy to take his log with him, while he said nothing of the sort in the manga.
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ahill1 said:
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This is pretty well confirmation that Mihawk couldn't have had time to go to Mariejois. They escaped the Grand Line only just after having arrived, and Gin was captured 3 days before the events at Baratie, which was stated to be right after they escaped the Grand Line.
So it's most likely that Mihawk has sea stone on his ship or is able to repel sea kings with his Haki. There's still no excuse for Don Krieg escaping after we saw what happened to the Straw Hats the moment they got into the Calm Belt.
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We don't know how much time after Mihawk's defeat they escaped from the Grand Line. They could have been defeated and then spent some time toddling in the ocean until getting to East Blue. Btw, nothing says Mijawk can't get to Mariejois in 3 days.
We don't know how much time after Mihawk's defeat they escaped from the Grand Line. They could have been defeated and then spent some time toddling in the ocean until getting to East Blue. Btw, nothing says Mijawk can't get to Mariejois in 3 days.
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I mean, it literally say they had "just escaped" the Grand Line, and it's implied that they left the moment the storm hit during Mihawk's attack.. Nothing there implies they were messing around for a significant amount of time. The Marines got on them right away.
But how? Even if Mihawk has a log post that goes directly to Mariejois, where is it implied that its location is that close to the beginning of the Grand Line? It's explicitly stated to be at the very center of the Grand Line.
