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ahill1 said:
Do you guys also find it a little dubious that Zoro so blatantly put Vivi's survival as a top priority at the expense of all the Straw Hats when saying she has to survive even if they're killed off? OK that he formed a friendship with Vivi with the time they interacted, but it seems a little off that he's already content with throwing his ambition as meaning less than Vivi succeeding in her task.
Zoro often shows his main loyalty to be to the crew, some key examples being siding against Usopp at the end of the CP9 Arc and taking in Luffy's pain to save him in Thriller Bark. Luffy's main priority at the time had become helping Vivi, so Zoro was essentially just staying loyal to his captain's order.

It would've been better had there been more development to Zoro putting his loyalty to Luffy and the crew above his own ambitions, but Oda and genuine character development are two things that don't often mix :troll2.
 

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How did Mr. 2 not recognize Vivi? He'd literally molested Cobra's face somehow but wasn't even aware of what the princess looked like? How many women have bright blue hair?
 

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How did Mr. 2 not recognize Vivi? He'd literally molested Cobra's face somehow but wasn't even aware of what the princess looked like? How many women have bright blue hair?

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The only explanation would be that Vivi wasn't as recognisable to those who weren't citizens of Alabasta and Mr. 2 didn't seem like he was often in the country when not necessary. That is still very questionable though when Vivi's still enough of a public figure to have appeared at the Reverie when she was a child and it's not as though there's few eye witnesses inside and outside of Baroque Works to give a description of Miss Wednesday, so it's still shaky writing at best.
 

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I honestly don't sweat small details like that in a series I don't even care about anymore, but yeah it seems they'd have been better off giving Vivi some form of disguise on their way back to Alabasta.
 

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Pretty sure he did something like call him a crossdresser or something, considering that's the most accurate translation for "Okama" in OP's context whereas the fansubs substituting it for "faggot" and the like is slightly less accurate (though far more entertaining).
 

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How tf did those water drops take Luffy back from all that dried up state??
 

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ahill1 said:
How tf did those water drops take Luffy back from all that dried up state??

You expect real life physics to apply in a series where Enel can affect Luffy by conducting heat through metal, but not by just melting his rubber body with thousands of degrees of plasma energy? :ladd
 

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Man Crocodile is terrible at finishing a job. Did he actually manage to kill anybody? He failed to kill Luffy twice, he couldn't even kill Chaka despite heavily wounding him.. Pretty pathetic and hypocritical. Remember how angry he was when he found out that Mr. 3 failed to carry out his orders (when Sanji was acting as 3)? Crocodile himself failed to carry out his own tasks many times.
 

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Reminds me of how many times Black stabbed people in the FT arc without managing to actually kill them
 

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It's funny that King Cobra would so promptly point at the female bath place when his daugter was also bathing herself there.

Btw, I liked the aftermatch moments and the arc was basically a considerably better version of Dressrosa. The plot armor was the most damaging aspect of the entire saga tho, with one of the problems being highlighted by SSJ2 up above. Also, where the fuck is the scene showing Pell surviving? Swear that it isn't in the manga version I read.

Now onto Skypiea. Should begin the 1st volume leading to Skypiea today.
 

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Pretty sure it shows his bandana or something.
 

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I'll post it when I get to that point.
 

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Just got to chapter 170. Hoping to get past Alabasta tonight.
 
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