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Glad to see we both agree Hunt for the Dragon Balls is underrated. It's the only arc I can think of that didn't have any plot holes beyond later arcs not staying consistent with it's comedic approach, plus it's the only arc where every character in the cast was utilised for the climactic battle (Saiyan Arc comes close in that regard though).

Do you find the anime filler enhanced the quality of certain arcs at all? For instance, the Piccolo Daimao Arc making the Choshinsui less of a convenient asspull and bringing in more side characters to offer more perspectives of the arc such as Suno showing what it's like to be a regular human in the midst of the chaos, of the training filler of the Saiyan Arc providing Gohan an actual character arc?
 

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Do you find the anime filler enhanced the quality of certain arcs at all? For instance, the Piccolo Daimao Arc making the Choshinsui less of a convenient asspull and bringing in more side characters to offer more perspectives of the arc such as Suno showing what it's like to be a regular human in the midst of the chaos, of the training filler of the Saiyan Arc providing Gohan an actual character arc?

I've never actually watched the anime, I've only ever read the manga. :giraffe
 

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I'd say the anime's worth a watch if you enjoyed part 1 and the Saiyan Arc, since it fixes a lot of problems the manga had such as training segments not being that expansive after the 21st TB or the Choshinsui asspull, plus the ost is fantastic. It does create a few plot holes, such as Mutaito beating Goku, but there's several ways to excuse most of them. Just don't bother with Z after the Saiyan Arc.

What was the firs anime/manga you watched/read?
 

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firs

What's the shittiest movie you've ever seen?
 

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What's the shittiest movie you've ever seen?

After Earth.
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I'd say the anime's worth a watch if you enjoyed part 1 and the Saiyan Arc, since it fixes a lot of problems the manga had such as training segments not being that expansive after the 21st TB or the Choshinsui asspull, plus the ost is fantastic. It does create a few plot holes, such as Mutaito beating Goku, but there's several ways to excuse most of them. Just don't bother with Z after the Saiyan Arc.

What was the firs anime/manga you watched/read?

The first manga I've ever read was Full Metal Alchemist, and I still haven't completed it.
 

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How far did you get with FMA? I'd seriously advise continuing it, since it has an extremely tight narrative, utilises all it's cast well, has a pretty balanced power system and has no plot holes I can think of off-hand. The only gripe I really have with it is the superficial aspect of overusing the chibi style gags too often. You could alternatively watch the Brotherhood anime, which is a great watch with the only downside being cutting a lot of the first volume's content.

Have you viewed any anime/manga from the 80s or prior other than DB, Berserk and JoJo?
Also, which part of JoJo was your favourite and why? (Though I expect your answer for the former to be Stone Ocean based on previous conversations)
 

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How far did you get with FMA? I'd seriously advise continuing it, since it has an extremely tight narrative, utilises all it's cast well, has a pretty balanced power system and has no plot holes I can think of off-hand. The only gripe I really have with it is the superficial aspect of overusing the chibi style gags too often. You could alternatively watch the Brotherhood anime, which is a great watch with the only downside being cutting a lot of the first volume's content.

I think I stopped reading around this snowy place.


Have you viewed any anime/manga from the 80s or prior other than DB, Berserk and JoJo?
Also, which part of JoJo was your favourite and why? (Though I expect your answer for the former to be Stone Ocean based on previous conversations)

Nah, any recommendations?

Part 7, it pretty much has the best of everything. But I do consider Stone Ocean to be the best out of the original 6.
 

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I think I stopped reading around this snowy place.
You mean Briggs? If that's the case, I'd say to continue, or at least start FMA:B from around episode 30 or so.

Nah, any recommendations?
Legend of the Galactic Heroes - I know you said you found it "boring" at first, though if you ever feel like watching something that has extensive world building, highly fleshed out and logical characters, multiple topics of theme exploration such as politics, history, morality and religion, as well as offering no plot armour/conveniences to it's cast; it doesn't get much better than this.

Ashita no Joe - One of the few good sports series and easily the best Shonen series in my opinion. Completely different from most of the Shonen to be made after the DB era with it's protagonist starting off as quite a selfish and abrasive asshole rather than some perfect boy scout, excellent character development/introspection and each fight in the series having some sort of consequence and permanent effect on it's characters. Only real minor faults to it are the children in the support cast not really having a role and the logic behind most boxing tactics being questionable, though the fights are great more for the drama and character writing than actual choreography.

Rose of Versailles - It's protagonist, Oscar, was the main inspiration behind Griffith's design, plus her role as a female attempting to play a man's role in combat makes her somewhat similar to Casca. It's perhaps the only Shojo series I'd recommend due to having a good historical setting, juggles between the focus/perspective of it's cast well and has quite a bleak, memorable ending. Whether you choose the anime or manga is up to you since the anime has good ost and decent animation for it's era, plus an extra sense of drama with Osamu Dezaki's signature painting shots at the end of each episode. Only critique I have of it is the pacing being quite slow in some of the early and mid episodes.

Hokuto no Ken - A fun, testosterone fuelled action series that inspired Parts 1-3 of JoJo, as well as Guts' character design to a minor extent. It sets itself apart from most other Shonen with how tightly woven the narrative around character relations is, skill being a major factor in many battles and very few characters being plot armoured. Just don't read anything past chapter 136 since it starts to make numerous retcons after the timeskip and turns it's protagonist into a complete Gary Stu, plus the first part has an extremely solid ending anyway.

Area 88 - Great war drama that focuses on how a soldier is permanently changed by becoming used to battle and addicted to bloodlust, essentially what post-Chimera Ant Arc Gon should've become. It also has the best aerial battles in anime. Just watch the OVAs though, since whilst the plot is somewhat inconclusive, this is secondary compared to how the prior events changed the protagonist to the point the conclusion of the conflict doesn't matter (also, the manga's ending is a :trash reset for a generic happy ending).

Kinnikuman - As far as writing goes, it can go from decent to Fairy Tail levels of idiocy, though it stands out if looking for something that's just dumb fun and is an interesting series from a historical perspective for popularising many of the tropes DB is credited for bringing to Shonen despite doing so long before it; alien protagonist, enemies constantly escalating in strength and scale, reforming numerous villains into heroes and even the power level concept.

Part 7, it pretty much has the best of everything. But I do consider Stone Ocean to be the best out of the original 6.
Agreed on Part 7 combining all the best elements of previous parts. What was your opinion on Diego being the final villain? Did you believe it worked well as a tribute to Parts 1 and 3, as well as provided a unique conclusion, or did you find it somewhat contrived?
 

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Agreed on Part 7 combining all the best elements of previous parts. What was your opinion on Diego being the final villain? Did you believe it worked well as a tribute to Parts 1 and 3, as well as provided a unique conclusion, or did you find it somewhat contrived?

I do think the finial battle is an incredibly ironic end for the part all things considered, throughout the part itself in flashbacks we learn that Johnny has always been 2nd to Diego, and at the end of it all, when it truly matters, after all that time, Diego was still better than him.

However, as much as I like it, my problem with the finial battle isn't that it was Diego who was the finial antagonist, my problem was that it was Another World Diego. For all intents and purposes a complete stranger, with a completely different past from the original, and with no real ties with Johnny himself. I would appreciate the ending more if it was regular Diego instead.
 

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Yeah. You could argue that it isn't too much of a big deal, considering it was from one of the timelines D4C opened up that contained Valentines similar enough to the main timeline one to immediately be caught up to speed, though it coming out of left field without foreshadowing hindered it somewhat.

Which do you consider to have the worse ending: Dark Tournaments resolve boost and revival, or Chapter Black's secret ancestry and power creep?
 

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Which do you consider to have the worse ending: Dark Tournaments resolve boost and revival, or Chapter Black's secret ancestry and power creep?

Chapter Black, because the arc had a significantly higher level of quality than the Dark Tournament before it shat it's pants.
 

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Top 5-10 favourite Hokuto no Ken characters?

1. Shin (Easily had the most development post death, like holy shit, he was fleshed out to an insane degree.)

2. Kenshiro (Has a ton of development, is arguably the greatest badass.)

3. Raoh

4. Rei

5. Toki

6. Fudou

7. Juza
 

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Favourite arc of the series?

What was your opinion on Jagi?

Would you agree that the themes/build up behind Musou Tensei and the character development it provided to Raoh make it one of the best power ups in battle Shonen?
 

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Favourite arc of the series?

The finial one with Raoh.

What was your opinion on Jagi?

It was amazing seeing the little toad getting squashed by Kenshiro.

Would you agree that the themes/build up behind Musou Tensei and the character development it provided to Raoh make it one of the best power ups in battle Shonen?

Oh hell yeah, but at the same time, I do think Heaven from Part 6 of JoJo gives it a close run for it's money.
 

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[mention]Pocket-Gog~[/mention] How excited are you for Broly? :pakl
 

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I take it based on previous threads, Ashita no Joe jumped all the way to your #1 spot on favourite anime/manga?
Who was your favourite AnJ character aside from Joe and Rikishi?
How are you finding Rose of Versailles?
 

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