Buu Saga/Fusion Reborn Chain thingy ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[SIAD]

Also in the film Gohan had the Semi Unlocked power, as demonstrated against a more powerful Super Bojack Frieza. If it had not been Gotenks Post Rosat at the beginning of the film, then it would have meant that Goku SSJ3 eliminated Fat Boo. Then Goten and Trunks entered the room of Time, if Majin Boo was dead?

Everything shows that the greatest Ki felt by Goku before he felt the Ki Fat Janemba was Super Boo (initial), the same as Gotenks Base (Post) thought of defeat.

Further evidence of this is that Gogeta SSJ had to go against an opponent not much higher than Goku SSJ3 (M12).

 

[Six Trails]

He felt Evil Boo and Post Gotenks and that makes them < Janemba

Proof?

 

[GokhanDBZfan]

Not that statement, but this.

*Fat Janemba powers up*
Goku: "I ain't ever felt a ki as incredible as that!"

He felt Evil Boo and Post Gotenks and that makes them < Janemba

Gotenks and Evil Boo didn't exist at the time that statement was made.

 

[Let's Go Fearless!]

He felt Evil Boo and Post Gotenks and that makes them < Janemba

Proof?

Not that statement, but this.

*Fat Janemba powers up*
Goku: "I ain't ever felt a ki as incredible as that!"

He felt Evil Boo and Post Gotenks and that makes them < Janemba

Gotenks and Evil Boo didn't exist at the time that statement was made.

Gotenks is Post Rosat in M12 since he used his kamikazi attack which proves that Evil Boo exist in that timeline. And when Goku met Janemba, he stated that he has the strongest ki he ever felt which should include everyone since it doesn't make sense if it refers only villain.

 

[Six Trails]

[Gotenks is Post Rosat in M12 since he used his kamikazi attack which proves that Evil Boo exist in that timeline. And when Goku met Janemba, he stated that he has the strongest ki he ever felt which should include everyone since it doesn't make sense if it refers only villain.

Evil Boo didn't show his full power until after the ROST.

 

[GokhanDBZfan]

Gotenks is only Post-RoSaT at the end, not at the beginning of the film.
Why do you people(and that's not for this thread) insist on shoving these movies into alternate timelines of some sort or something?
They are not supposed to take place in any timeline, they are seperate stories pretty much just copying the anime episodes airing at the time, completely unrelated to the events of the anime.
That's how in this film, many of the villains from the previous films appear, regardless of how much that clashes with the continuity of the individual films.

 

[Let's Go Fearless!]

[Gotenks is Post Rosat in M12 since he used his kamikazi attack which proves that Evil Boo exist in that timeline. And when Goku met Janemba, he stated that he has the strongest ki he ever felt which should include everyone since it doesn't make sense if it refers only villain.

Evil Boo didn't show his full power until after the ROST.

Super Boo was never supress and wasn't holding back. http://dbzeta.net/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=5100

Gotenks is only Post-RoSaT at the end, not at the beginning of the film.
Why do you people(and that's not for this thread) insist on shoving these movies into alternate timelines of some sort or something?
They are not supposed to take place in any timeline, they are seperate stories pretty much just copying the anime episodes airing at the time, completely unrelated to the events of the anime.
That's how in this film, many of the villains from the previous films appear, regardless of how much that clashes with the continuity of the individual films.

If you says so.

 

[kriss-]

You're just in denial.

I agree with you.

Gotenks showed that he had the Kamikaze Ghost's and the only time he had them was after he entered the Rosat, arguing otherwise is just a fallacy.

 

[Six Trails]

Super Boo was never supress and wasn't holding back.

He was. Piccolo thought that Gotenks had a chance against Boo initially. For him to think that, Boo couldn't have been at full power otherwise Piccolo would've immediately known that Gotenks had no chance.

 

[kriss-]

Super Boo is never noted as increasing his Ki, I don't see why we should assume that he did. If you can do that, you might as well assume anything you can throughout the series.

The Majin Boo saga makes it painfully clear that Piccolo is not an accurate Ki sensor.

 

[Six Trails]

I just explained why.

 

[kriss-]

I just explained why.

And I countered.

 

[Six Trails]

All you said is "I don't see a reason why we should believe he powered up." That's not countering, just ignoring the reasoning I provided.

Boo couldn't have been at full power otherwise Piccolo would've immediately known that Gotenks had no chance.

^ That point still stands.

 

[kriss-]

If you can provide a statement that suggests he powered up, people would be more likely to believe you.

For sensing such high battle powers, it's like standing between two sky scrapers and determining which one is higher, Piccolo is out of his league. This is shown when he can't determine whose stronger, Majin Vegeta or Kid Gohan? Well... according to Vegeta, he expected Goku to surpass Gohan, but Goku was even stronger then that. During the bout' with Innocent Boo, Teen Gohan suggests that if he was angry like he was against Cell, he could defeat him, Vegeta laughs at that battle power and says its nothing compared to them.

Piccolo isn't reliable thus far.

During the bout' against Innocent Boo, Piccolo has to ask Goku if he could have won. He didn't know.

Piccolo is still not reliable.

Piccolo says that Gotenks might have a chance, he immediately retracts his statement.

Piccolo is STILL not reliable.

So no, your point does not stand.

 

[Six Trails]

If you can provide a statement that suggests he powered up, people would be more likely to believe you.

Chapter: 489 (DBZ 295), P11.5
Context: seeing Gotenks after he’d trained in the Room of Spirit and Time
Piccolo: “He-he really is different…! He really has greatly powered up…! Th-this just might…!”

Chapter: 489 (DBZ 295), P12.4-7
Context: Gotenks attacks Boo, to little effect
Piccolo: “…Th-this may be hopeless…”

For sensing such high battle powers, it's like standing between two sky scrapers and determining which one is higher, Piccolo is out of his league.

When is this ever said? Kaboom saying something doesn't mean it's a fact.

This is shown when he can't determine whose stronger, Majin Vegeta or Kid Gohan?

Likely because the power difference was very small.

Well... according to Vegeta, he expected Goku to surpass Gohan, but Goku was even stronger then that.

...Your point being? And when did he ever say Goku was stronger than he expected?

During the bout' with Innocent Boo, Teen Gohan suggests that if he was angry like he was against Cell, he could defeat him, Vegeta laughs at that battle power and says its nothing compared to them.

Okay. Angry Gohan > Boo, and Vegeta > Boo. How does this make Piccolo bad at sensing Ki?

During the bout' against Innocent Boo, Piccolo has to ask Goku if he could have won. He didn't know.

Because Boo was close to Goku.

Piccolo says that Gotenks might have a chance, he immediately retracts his statement.

So Boo increased his power and thus fooled Piccolo and Gotenks. Thank you for helping my case.

 

[Let's Go Fearless!]

Super Boo was never supress and wasn't holding back.

He was. Piccolo thought that Gotenks had a chance against Boo initially. For him to think that, Boo couldn't have been at full power otherwise Piccolo would've immediately known that Gotenks had no chance.

Nothing stated nor implied he did. Beside, Boo was about to fight Gotenks and he was looking forward to it which is stupid for him to hold back let alone supress.

 

[Six Trails]

Nothing stated nor implied he did.

Except for the reasoning I just posted? Do you guys even read my posts? Piccolo and Gotenks thought Base Gotenks could stalemate Boo, and then Boo turns out to be much stronger. Boo just revealing more power makes much more sense than both Gotenks and Piccolo coming the same conclusion yet being wrong. Why would you try to make things more complex than need be? It just seems like anti-Gotenks bias.

Beside, Boo was about to fight Gotenks and he was looking forward to it which is stupid for him to hold back let alone supress.

Why would he randomly power up to full power if it wasn't necessary? He can sense Ki.

 

[Let's Go Fearless!]

Nothing stated nor implied he did.

Except for the reasoning I just posted? Do you guys even read my posts? Piccolo and Gotenks thought Base Gotenks could stalemate Boo, and then Boo turns out much stronger. Boo just revealing more power makes much more sense than both Gotenks and Piccolo coming the same conclusion yet being wrong. Why would you try to make things more complex than need be? It just seems like anti-Gotenks bias.

Beside, Boo was about to fight Gotenks and he was looking forward to it which is stupid for him to hold back let alone supress.

Why would he randomly power up to full power if it wasn't necessary? He can sense Ki.

How come Piccolo didn't sense the power of Boo increased after Gotenks kicked Boo?

It doesn't make sense that since nothing EVER noted that he powered and Piccolo was like ''i was wrong''. We've seen in the series that everyone powered up and at least stated to be powered up and unlike there was nothing.

 

[GokhanDBZfan]

You're just in denial.

I agree with you.

Gotenks showed that he had the Kamikaze Ghost's and the only time he had them was after he entered the Rosat, arguing otherwise is just a fallacy.

Goku had Kaioken x 10 in the Tullece film, does that make it post-Namek, since the Earthlings and Piccolo are alive?

 

[Pakl]

Goku compares Fat Janemba to Fat Boo... That means they are the same level...