Dragon Ball Discussion

[Evil Vegeta]

I think his pride was why he was able to resist it. When Bobbidi told Vegeta to kill Kaioshin, Vegeta kept resisting and eventually said even though Bobbidi had control of his body, he'd never take control of his pride.

 

[Spiral-Force]

Doesn't he need to verbally cast the spell to possesss someone? Boo was holding him by the throat with the purpose of not leting him cast the spell that would seal him, so he wouldn't be able to possess him either.

When he tried to take over Vegeta, he just made a generic shouting sound, which isn't said to be needed. What really matters is his eyes, which was emphasised when he took control of Spopovich and destroyed him.

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[GreatSaiyaman123]

For how long was Super Boo Gotenks-Boo? Did he manage to use the full 30 minutes of SSJ3 Gotenks?

 

[Captain Cadaver]

Minimally less due to Gotenks having been fused for a few seconds beforehand but beyond that nitpick, yes. He wouldn't have turned into Piccolo otherwise and had Gotenks ran out of time using SS3, he would've held the same form but drastically weakened. The magical nature of Boo's body seems to override stamina issues with those he absorbs I guess.

 

[Evil Vegeta]

He somehow pushed the 5 mins to over 10 mins.

Gotenks is weird. Trunks said their entire Fusion was canceled out after 5 mins, but we see it took some time before they separated during the fight with Boo.

 

[ahill1]

He somehow pushed the 5 mins to over 10 mins.

Gotenks is weird. Trunks said their entire Fusion was canceled out after 5 mins, but we see it took some time before they separated during the fight with Boo.

I always thought that just the SSJ3 would be canceled out after 5 minutes... and they were still fused because the 30 minutes of fusion hadn't ran out. That's the reasoning people use to assume Gotenks defused entirely inside of Boo, as he apparently could use more than 10 minutes of Gotenks' power (presumably the 30 minutes).

 

[Evil Vegeta]

Trunks: “…But its weak point is time…See…We’re only able to become it for about 5 minutes…Then even our Fusion comes undone and we turn back into two people…”

I guess it comes down to how you interpret Trunks' statement. He makes it seem as if the Fusion just ends altogether once the 5 mins are up.

 

[GreatSaiyaman123]

Chapter: 515 (DBZ 321), P5.3
Context: after Vegeta says he’ll hold off Boo again, so Goku can prepare the Genki-Dama
Goku: “You’ll sta-stall for time?…Yo-you’ve just been restored to life. Your ki still ain’t full, is it?!”

Does this statement means anyone who's revived is revided weaker? Or if Vegeta's case a specific one because he was already fighting on his dead body?

 

[Evil Vegeta]

I seriously doubt it. I went along with this quote to possibly explain why Gohan's energy wasn't enough for the Genki-Dama, but it makes no sense.

Vegeta was somewhat healed once he was restored, though it wasn't by a significant amount. Most of it looked to be superficial damage being cleared up, if anything. The reason he wasn't fully healed is because the beating he took from Kid Boo.

 

[ahill1]

Trunks: “…But its weak point is time…See…We’re only able to become it for about 5 minutes…Then even our Fusion comes undone and we turn back into two people…”

I guess it comes down to how you interpret Trunks' statement. He makes it seem as if the Fusion just ends altogether once the 5 mins are up.

Fair enough. Didn't exact remember this line. So you think it's possible that when the fusion ran out of time inside Boo they were momentarily as base Gotenks, instead of defusing into two people?

 

[Evil Vegeta]

Yeah, it's possible. Boo stopped midway during his attack and was shown to be in some noticeable pain before reverting. Since Boo would've looked the same whether he absorbed Base, Super Saiyan, or Super Saiyan 3 Gotenks, it could've just all happened simultaneously. I figure the reversion would act weird inside of Boo since he was able to take Super Saiyan 3 Gotenks' power beyond its normal time limit.

 

[Evil Vegeta]

Yeah, it's possible. Boo stopped midway during his attack and was shown to be in some noticeable pain before reverting. Since Boo would've looked the same whether he absorbed Base, Super Saiyan, or Super Saiyan 3 Gotenks, it could've just all happened simultaneously. I figure the reversion would act weird inside of Boo since he was able to take Super Saiyan 3 Gotenks' power beyond its normal time limit.

 

[Pocket-Gog~]

He was able to take it beyond it's normal limits?

 

[Evil Vegeta]

Boo told Gohan he had 10 mins left after he had already been fighting Gohan for awhile. Gotenks could only stay fused for 5 mins in Super Saiyan 3.

 

[Symbiote]

Boo's insane stamina is probably the reason.

 

[Pocket-Gog~]

Perhaps it was an inconsistency.

 

[GreatSaiyaman123]

Is there a difference in the Ki signature of SSJ2/SSJ3? I know SSJ is implied to have a different Ki signature from base form, but what about the upper forms?

I seriously doubt it. I went along with this quote to possibly explain why Gohan's energy wasn't enough for the Genki-Dama, but it makes no sense.

Vegeta was somewhat healed once he was restored, though it wasn't by a significant amount. Most of it looked to be superficial damage being cleared up, if anything. The reason he wasn't fully healed is because the beating he took from Kid Boo.

What's your explanation for why Gohan's energy wasn't enough nowadays?

Vegeta's case being a specific one because he was fighting before being revived is what i've always took this quote to mean, but as you said it would actually explain stuff like Gohan's energy not being enough and the kids not even going SSJ or fusing to give energy to Goku.

 

[Evil Vegeta]

I've always went with the Genki being a portion of Chi to explain that.

I know both are used interchangeably, but I believe the differentiation of both is enough to show that there's a difference.

Some people believe Super Saiyan 3 Goku's Full-Power>Genki-Dama w/Gohan and the others energy. Seems like horseshit to me.

 

[GreatSaiyaman123]

Yeah, some people try to say it was Gohan's Ki because Vegeta was saying "Ki", even though Kuririn said Goku was gathering "Ki" to his Genki-Dama on Namek at the same time Goku was saying "Genki" :umad

 

[Evil Vegeta]

I think a lot of people prefer the idea of Kid Boo being >Gohan and Gotenks because it'd give more validity to the final battle. I can understand that logic. The Boo saga just seems like one of those times where the winner wasn't the strongest.