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How in the hell did Pilaf acquire this massive castle? :facepalm
 

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The narrator says pilaf’s gang are the “conquerors of the Reich Pilaf”. Seriously :ha
 

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Early DB is messed up. Bulma straight up says she thought Pilaf was gonna rape her :ha
 

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So how strong is Boss Rabbit? He easily jumped 30 feet through the air, and evaded an attack from a serious Goku.
Probably a cut above the average human or a decent martial artist of the human level like Satan if taking him withstanding a serious attack to the head from Galu's Nyoibo seriously.

Has Goku gotten stronger by this point?
Most likely not. He's not implied to make any gains until his training with Ultra Instinct Roshi.

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How in the hell did Pilaf acquire this massive castle? :facepalm
Most likely inheritance, given his title is Daio (Great King).

Oh, sorry for that mistake. It's obviously Kaiser since he's in charge of the Pilaf Reich. :troll2

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Early DB is messed up. Bulma straight up says she thought Pilaf was gonna rape her :ha
At this point, she's been sexually harassed so much on the journey she's come to expect it. I'd cite it as some character development for her, given how she preferred not to make or imagine the situation going sexual unless a last resort at the start of the journey.
The first step on Bulma's path of thottery.
 

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the 21st Budokai is pretty funny. loved the Kuririn vs kame fight. most jokes seem pretty funny... this is an optimum example of how to make a funny manga. not a single joke I gaze at and think it's forced, everything seems natural.

I find it funny that namu resorted to his flying attack when Goku was all dazed in the ground. ok, he noticed Goku could use his tail again and throw him out, but resorting to a flying attack from many feet in the air to defeat an opponent who is motionless at the ground is funny.

now that I've read the namu's part, it occurred to me that they used him in the 22nd Budokai filler with Tenshinhan beating him to the point he couldn't even move at the preliminaries... that was savage, Tenshinhan in filler was more of a fucking conceited ass than his manga, non filler self.
 

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Wild West Giran is the best part of the 21st. The rest is irrelevant.
 

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On chapter 25, the start of Roshi’s training. I’m curious to see how much Goku progresses between now and the 21st.
 

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So looking at the preliminaries of the 21st, Goku seems to have made monumental gains from Roshi’s training. The fact that he had to tell Krillin to hold back his power unless fighting a very strong opponent tells me that they must have gained a lot more than 2-3x their initial power imo.
 

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This attack is so strange. How does Namu generate downwards momentum while suspended in mid air? :ha
 

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You gotta kick so hard it slings your body down. It definitely works try at home.
 

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So are we not gonna talk about how Jackie Chun murdered Carrot Master and his gang during the 21st Budokai? What savagery.
 

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Did Goku get stronger after the 21st? He wasn’t near death from it, but he was pretty damn exhausted.
 

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So are we not gonna talk about how Jackie Chun murdered Carrot Master and his gang during the 21st Budokai? What savagery.
It's worth noting the Daizenshuu states he and his minions floated off into space rather than getting blown up. The video game Attack of the Saiyans has a mini-arc in which he states he left the moon shortly before Roshi destroyed it and made GAINZ before being beaten by the Yamchad during his 23rd TB training.

Shame we never got to see the GAINZ he'd make from carrot diet in the main series. Obviously, he was too OP.

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Did Goku get stronger after the 21st? He wasn’t near death from it, but he was pretty damn exhausted.
Unlikely. If so, he ought to get stronger after any intense workout. Kuririn later states he got stronger when he fought Blue, though it's likely that was due to the Muscle Tower events since that seems to be what it's framed as.
 

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Goku wasn’t near death at Muscle Tower though. I think Zenkais work differently in DB, or the “Saiyans get stronger through battle” can be applicable in these situations.
 

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Goku wasn’t near death at Muscle Tower though. I think Zenkais work differently in DB, or the “Saiyans get stronger through battle” can be applicable in these situations.

Goku got shot in the head and knocked out at Muscle Tower, after which he needed #8 to carry him. That's a greater injury than simply being exhausted like at the end of the 21st.
 

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I agree that respectively Goku was injured far worse at Muscle Tower, but Goku’s own words say that he wasn’t near death..

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Well Vegeta wasn't even KO'd after Reacoom and he still got a zenkai...
 

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[mention]Fearless Saiyajin[/mention] you should join the reread. Ahill and GSM have seemed to bail.
 

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Continuing the RRA arc now. On to Muscle Tower.
 

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How do you guys think Sergeant Metallic compares to Goku? Goku demonstrated superior physical strength,

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but Metallic’s durability seemed to be a factor in this fight. After taking his attacks, Goku claimed he should have entered the Budokai. His Kamehameha shortly after was strong enough to incinerate his head. Is Metallic being a distant rival accurate?
 

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