Goku in M10
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Yea I thought it was confirmed that the Kamehameha was actually wrecking Broly quite badly. For as durable as he seemed to be, he really cracked apart when the pressure was on him.
I'm fine with Super Saiyan Goku/Goten and Super Saiyan 2 Gohan being able to take him out. Broly is probably right around Fat Buu's first power ups level.
I'm fine with Super Saiyan Goku/Goten and Super Saiyan 2 Gohan being able to take him out. Broly is probably right around Fat Buu's first power ups level.
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I think Goku was definitely there. His chi was sensed by everyone around. This could all be an illusion of the Dragonballs, sure, but there's no way to prove that. How could Broly have seen Goku with that gigantic, immense green ball of death in between the huge gap of space between him and Gohan/Goten? I just don't think he could. He acknowledges Goku with his psychopathic "Kakaroto!" AFTER Goku lands and turns Super Saiyan. I doubted for a long time that Broly could sense chi, but, apparently he can. And there's no way he could just SEE Goku, right? With all that chaos going on? Or hear him?
As for Goku being SSj2, that's debatable. Could he? Most likely. Should he? Most likely. Does it definitely look like Gohan turned SSj2 in the final charge? Almost certainly, he was earlier in the movie. Does it look like Goku could have in the final charge? Potentially, but, that could also be attributed to the massive amount of wind that was blowing in their faces.
I however, think that the Kamehameha shot him into the sun for a reason. He tried to erect a chi barrier, and it did momentarily halt the Kamehameha briefly. He yelled in agony/rage when it hit him, but, after that, you don't see him at all until he smashes into the sun. From there, he's screaming and his heart explodes and he is eviscerated. Why send him into the sun otherwise? Because he has healing properties, sure, and maybe to make sure he's defeated and to not leave any doubt in the viewers' mind... but, practically, they had to at least admit there was a good chance he'd survive and that this was their final shot at stopping him, so, they sent him into the sun. I have no doubt in my mind that Kamehameha would have hurt him good, but, damaged him like he was after movie 8? Probably not. Killed him? I'm guessing no. The sun was an insurance policy.
I put M10 Broly at around Good Boo's power level.
As for Goku being SSj2, that's debatable. Could he? Most likely. Should he? Most likely. Does it definitely look like Gohan turned SSj2 in the final charge? Almost certainly, he was earlier in the movie. Does it look like Goku could have in the final charge? Potentially, but, that could also be attributed to the massive amount of wind that was blowing in their faces.
I however, think that the Kamehameha shot him into the sun for a reason. He tried to erect a chi barrier, and it did momentarily halt the Kamehameha briefly. He yelled in agony/rage when it hit him, but, after that, you don't see him at all until he smashes into the sun. From there, he's screaming and his heart explodes and he is eviscerated. Why send him into the sun otherwise? Because he has healing properties, sure, and maybe to make sure he's defeated and to not leave any doubt in the viewers' mind... but, practically, they had to at least admit there was a good chance he'd survive and that this was their final shot at stopping him, so, they sent him into the sun. I have no doubt in my mind that Kamehameha would have hurt him good, but, damaged him like he was after movie 8? Probably not. Killed him? I'm guessing no. The sun was an insurance policy.
I put M10 Broly at around Good Boo's power level.
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I don't remember Goku giving his power in the anime.
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I don't find the Diaz to be reliable at times
Majin Vegeta > SSJ Gotenks?
Gohan = Goten?
I'm sure Goku gave Gohan mental support against Cell and nothing more. Goku in M10 I have no idea. Since when could Shenron hear a person's thoughts and grant wishes as so, especially without showing up. Why didn't he show up when Trunks was distracting Broly? Where the Dragonballs still charging? Why would Shenron bring Goku back to help defeat Broly when he couldn't bring Goku back 7 years prior?
Majin Vegeta > SSJ Gotenks?
Gohan = Goten?
I'm sure Goku gave Gohan mental support against Cell and nothing more. Goku in M10 I have no idea. Since when could Shenron hear a person's thoughts and grant wishes as so, especially without showing up. Why didn't he show up when Trunks was distracting Broly? Where the Dragonballs still charging? Why would Shenron bring Goku back to help defeat Broly when he couldn't bring Goku back 7 years prior?
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The Daiz says base post rosat > Majin Vegeta > base pre rosat Gotenks. Gotenks is showed in base in the Daiz pic.Super Saiyan Overlord1007 said:
Gohan = Goten is likely due to post rosat stuff
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Toriyama interviews have contradicted the Daizenshuu several times, and while I find his senile responses unreliable as well, it's the word of an author vs. a bunch of guys sitting on a desk who didn't write the series being paid to write a book on it, so I'd take the word of the author. The Daizenshuu is only as reliable as those Shonen Jump entries Toriyama didn't write, like the backstory of the Ginyu Force and the Saiyan arc levels that have Roshi at 190 and Kami lower than Daimao.
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Really? Where was that? I don't remember.Pakl said:
