Kid Buu vs Super Buu

[kriss-]

Ssj3 brings a user to their limits. He maxed.

It was made after the Majin Boo Arc, and everyone was in their strongest condition at THAT time.

Everybody reached a point where they couldn't get any stronger.

Goku states he can't train to get stronger -twice.

So the burden of proof lies on you. All you do is speculate and fail to bring any evidence to the table.

Nobody made any increases between the Cell Games and Boo Saga -barely noticeable increases that is.

 

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[Fantastische Hure]

Last warning. Plz.
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[Ryuzaki]

Jesus christ!!!

What happens if you don't train?

Once again, Goku stated that they'd train to fight Boo again and make sure they'll win in one-on-one this time. What can you possibly argue against this now ? Be realistic, you lost this debate. But don't worry : the Myth Slayer will teach you his techniques someday.

Please don't state your opinion is the right one.

Why ? You don't have any proper counter-argument. You've just kept repeating the same arguments that we've debunked dozens of times in dozens of differents ways. But obviously, you can't admit it, because you're so stubborn and desesperated to have the last word. So, I'll tell you a secret, dude : it's not going to happen with your current debating skills.

Now, try to debunk my argument in an unbiased way : how Goku kept the same power in DBS if he had trained in order to surpass Boo ?

 

[Six Trails]

Ssj3 brings a user to their limits. He maxed.

Good luck proving that without the Daizenshuu.

everyone was in their strongest condition at THAT time.

"Please don't state your opinion is the right one."

Everybody reached a point where they couldn't get any stronger.

By the time of Battle of Gods.

Goku states he can't train to get stronger -twice.

In Battle of Gods.

So the burden of proof lies on you.

So, you don't know how it works then?

All you do is speculate and fail to bring any evidence to the table.

The hypocrisy...

 

[kriss-]

Once again, Goku stated that they'd train to fight Boo again and make sure they'll win in one-on-one this time. What can you possibly argue against this now ? Be realistic, you lost this debate. But don't worry : the Myth Slayer will teach you his techniques someday.

Please don't state your opinion is the right one.

Why ? You don't have any proper counter-argument. You've just kept repeating the same arguments that we've debunked dozens of times in dozens of differents ways. But obviously, you can't admit it, because you're so stubborn and desesperated to have the last word. So, I'll tell you a secret, dude : it's not going to happen with your current debating skills.

Now, try to debunk my argument in an unbiased way : how Goku kept the same power in DBS if he had trained in order to surpass Boo ?

I've got my own views and you should too. I'll leave you to figure that out by yourself. I'm really kind of tired of being 'asked questions', answering them and being asked 'more questions'.

 

[kriss-]

Ssj3 brings a user to their limits. He maxed.

Good luck proving that without the Daizenshuu.
I'm not going to take this bait.

everyone was in their strongest condition at THAT time.

"Please don't state your opinion is the right one."
It's my personal interpretation. You're free to disagree.

Everybody reached a point where they couldn't get any stronger.

By the time of Battle of Gods.
Incorrect. The only time they reach any particular point of strength is by new transformations. Nothing ever contradicts it. The burden of proof lies on you.

Goku states he can't train to get stronger -twice.

In Battle of Gods.
Incorrect.

So the burden of proof lies on you.

So, you don't know how it works then?
Incorrect.

All you do is speculate and fail to bring any evidence to the table.

The hypocrisy...
That's all you do.

 

[Ryuzaki]

Please don't state your opinion is the right one.

Why ? You don't have any proper counter-argument. You've just kept repeating the same arguments that we've debunked dozens of times in dozens of differents ways. But obviously, you can't admit it, because you're so stubborn and desesperated to have the last word. So, I'll tell you a secret, dude : it's not going to happen with your current debating skills.

Now, try to debunk my argument in an unbiased way : how Goku kept the same power in DBS if he had trained in order to surpass Boo ?

I've got my own views and you should too. I'll leave you to figure that out by yourself. I'm really kind of tired of being 'asked questions', answering them and being asked 'more questions'.

Funny. You don't want me to believe that my opinion is the right one, but you don't provide any counter-argument to prove me wrong ?

Don't worry, t0sh, the Myth Slayer will teach you his techniques, and you'll become a good debater...well, you'd be at least better than now.

 

[Southern Gothic]

So...Kid Boo vs Super Boo anyone? Let's shift things back to that, since I believe everyone has had their say on other matters.

Starting...now.

 

[Pyro]

I do like what's going on here. Just keep the insults to an appropriate level.

 

[Southern Gothic]

I do like what's going on here. Just keep the insults to an appropriate level.

You da boss. Fire at will.

 

[kriss-]

Toriyama has clearly stated Goku & the Z-Warrior's had reached a point where they could not get any stronger. The only time where we see them capatilize in strength is during the Majin Boo Saga. Toriyama states they had reached their strongest condition 'at that time'. Which is a reference to the Boo Saga & not Battle of Gods. Hence why Goku attempted training in Db Super but stated he couldn't get any stronger. Time was not a factor because Beerus hadn't threatened to destroy Earth or stated he would.

This is my personal interpretation of the said interviews so if you disagree, we should respectfully disagree.

Goku clearly fights Kid Boo in his Base form. According to this interview with Toriyama Goku has realized 'after', Battle of Gods that training in Base & Ssj would further increase his strength. So Goku has been training in Base 'after' Battle of Gods and this will eventually lead to his battle with Uub -Kid Boo's reincarnation. This view-point decreases Organ Form Frieza's increases and only makes them comparable to Goku's Ssj3, or perhaps weaker.

Hopefully this answers 'whatever questions' you may have. But I do not feel like answering every single power related, hypothetical question you have to provide you with an alternative view of the entire series.

As stated for reasons above, Kid Buu should win.

 

[Ryuzaki]

t0sh, things goes so bad for you that you're liking your own posts ?

@South Gothic Well, I don't know. Boo Saga had conflicting statements. Apparently, AT stated in Volume of F (well, sort of) that he can freely mess with what was originally established. It'd explain a lot of things in this Saga, at least.

I currently have Kid Boo > Super Boo.

 

[Pyro]

I don't really see the problem if Toriyama himself has said he doesn't care what's been established before, he'll change things as he sees fit and do whatever he wants because he's the author. If he made Piccolo as strong as Super Saiyan 3 Gotenks, I wouldn't even be surprised.

 

[Ryuzaki]

And actually, it would explain why Zarbon > Kamiccolo, and others "inconsistencies".

 

[kriss-]

The bait in that statement is hilarious.

 

[FutureProtagonist]

The bait in that statement is hilarious.

Woof. If that's not the pot calling the kettle black.

 

[Ryuzaki]

The bait in that statement is hilarious.

Woof. If that's not the pot calling the kettle black.

Touché!

edit : oh shit, I decrease your rep instead of raising it.

 

[kriss-]

Alright here's something:

If Goku had capped out in the Boo Saga or BoG and the implications blatantly state 'Frieza > Base Goku', and Goku > Ultimate Gohan or Kid Buu > Super Buu, how do you make that work in a numerical sense?

I've got my own ideas about it but I'm curious as to see how everyone else handles it.

I guess the question only affects those that see Kid Buu > Super Buu.

 

[Southern Gothic]

The bait in that statement is hilarious.

Woof. If that's not the pot calling the kettle black.

Touché!

edit : oh shit, I decrease your rep instead of raising it.

I got him back for ya