Movie 8

[p123]

Well said Siad

 

[supersaiyangodgogeta]

Are people still making stuff up about Goku and Gohan in M8?

Goku and Gohan are at their CG level since they are post rosat. Everyone else is 1st rosat.

No, there aren't multiple forms of Goku. There is no separate form of Goku called "resting Goku". There is only post rosat. M8 Goku is post rosat Goku, so he is equal to his CG level.

 

[Void]

Which is why Gohan has the worst performance of anyone in the film

 

[supersaiyangodgogeta]

And I can just say that Ultimate Gohan "did worse" than Gotenks in M13. It doesn't mean anything. Broly beat up everyone all the same. Same way Beerus beat up all of the Z-fighters with the same amount of effort. There is no reason to compare them based on their performance vs Beerus, same as Broly.

 

[Let's Go Fearless!]

And I can just say that Ultimate Gohan "did worse" than Gotenks in M13. It doesn't mean anything. Broly beat up everyone all the same. Same way Beerus beat up all of the Z-fighters with the same amount of effort. There is no reason to compare them based on their performance vs Beerus, same as Broly.

And Gotenks was one shotted by Hirudegarn while Gohan remain standing.

 

[Pakl]

Are people still making stuff up about Goku and Gohan in M8?

Goku and Gohan are at their CG level since they are post rosat. Everyone else is 1st rosat.

No, there aren't multiple forms of Goku. There is no separate form of Goku called "resting Goku". There is only post rosat. M8 Goku is post rosat Goku, so he is equal to his CG level.

Yes there is... Goku is suppressed the entire 10 days... Also movies are alternative universes so to say there is only CG Goku is lol worthy... There is no 30k Goku in the series so why was Goku 30k+ in movie 3? The answer its an alternative universe... Also M8 Goku is identical to his 10 days stated not his powered up state vs Celll... Thats because the movie was made before the Cell Games

Also Gohan is weak in the movie because he was not even known to be strong...

 

[p123]

Nothing every suggested that Goku was double Vegeta's strength in Movie 8 though Pak.

Warm Up Goku = Base Cell >> SSJG2 Vegeta

Cell is at least 2x stronger than Vegeta, therefore, Warm Up Goku would have to be as well. That's just not appropriate for the movie.

 

[Let's Go Fearless!]

Eh? Goku just need to be slightly stronger than Vegeta like in other movies that's all. No Warm Up or Resting state nonsense here.

 

[Pakl]

Nothing every suggested that Goku was double Vegeta's strength in Movie 8 though Pak.

Warm Up Goku = Base Cell >> SSJG2 Vegeta

Cell is at least 2x stronger than Vegeta, therefore, Warm Up Goku would have to be as well. That's just not appropriate for the movie.

I have M8 Vegeta stronger than his fight with Cell like I have M4 Gohan stronger than he was vs Guldo... M8 gap like CG gap

 

[p123]

Sure, just explain to me when Vegeta got stronger.

 

[Pakl]

Sure, just explain to me when Vegeta got stronger.

I see no reason why.. M4 henchmen are Ginyu Force level but Gohan doesnt look so weak like in the Gonyu Arc... He is stronger...

M8 Goku was copied from his 10 days state... There is no other Goku... Goku was also said tto be much stronger than Vegeta

 

[Pakl]

Sure, just explain to me when Vegeta got stronger.

I see no reason why.. M4 henchmen are Ginyu Force level but Gohan doesnt look so weak like in the Gonyu Arc... He is stronger...

M8 Goku was copied from his 10 days state... There is no other Goku... Goku was also said tto be much stronger than Vegeta

 

[p123]

When was Goku said to be much stronger than Vegeta?

 

[SSJ2]

Which is why Gohan has the worst performance of anyone in the film

Release dates.. Toei wouldn't know the levels yet..

 

[Let's Go Fearless!]

When was Goku said to be much stronger than Vegeta?

I think he's talking about this quote

Chapter: 391 (DBZ 197), P1.3-4, P2.1-4
Context: talking about the Room of Spirit and Time
Vegeta: “Well, well…So even the great Kakarot admits defeat against the rigors of that room…”
Goku: “Maybe…But pointlessly toughening up my body more than this is just torture, not training. But I won’t object if you guys enter that room again. It looks like you still have room left to toughen up more.”
Vegeta: “What was that…? I don’t like that…The way you said that made it sound like you’re saying that your true ability is greater than mine…”
Goku: “Yeah, a whole lot greater, I think.”

 

[Pakl]

Which is why Gohan has the worst performance of anyone in the film

Release dates.. Toei wouldn't know the levels yet..

Toei could of known... Their knowledge is irrelevant... Ours is relevant

 

[Let's Go Fearless!]

Which is why Gohan has the worst performance of anyone in the film

Release dates.. Toei wouldn't know the levels yet..

Toei could of known... Their knowledge is irrelevant... Ours is relevant

I think you just meant yours is relevant.

 

[p123]

What happens in the manga does not have a 100% carryover you fool. Clearly in M8 things are much different than they were in the manga. To think otherwise is foolish. Twice shown is there doubt about who is superior out of the cast, to think Goku had an astronomical advantage is lazy and ignorant.

 

[Pakl]

Goku is clearly stronger by a decent margin... His feats show so...

 

[p123]

His feats show that he has an impossibly strong will. He keeps coming back more and more. Has nothing to do with power level.