Piccolo vs Vegeta - a side by side comparison

[Evil Vegeta]

Goku looked like shit after using that KMHMH.

 

[p123]

Sure he looked like shit, but the gap wasn't nearly as huge.

 

[Evil Vegeta]

Let's assume his virus never kicked in any further after that. You don't see Goku getting comfortably bodied by #19?

 

[p123]

Yea that's about a 1.1x gap or so. Nowhere near as close as what Goku was just doing to 19. Goku has lost a ton of power and 19 is only a decent chunk superior. 19 can't be as strong as Goku's original power, if he was, Goku wouldn't be able to drop hardly any power at all, which isn't suggested.

 

[Evil Vegeta]

Yeah, I definitely won't go so far to say it's anywhere as bad as Super Saiyan Goku and Initial #19. That was a "getting fucked and unable to tell by who" difference. With this, I'll just say Goku would inevitably lose no matter what.

 

[ahill1]

It's said Goku's power has fallen remarkably. I think a 85~100 drop in power does cut it.

 

[p123]

Remarkably sounds like 75-80% to me.

Sick Goku 100
Android 19 Post 90
Post KHH Goku 80
Android 19 Pre 70


You keep worrying about what cuts it. You are using the statements to try to push your agenda, you should let the statements dictate the numbers.

 

[Evil Vegeta]

I like how Gero was aware of Goku's huge drop in power, yet wasn't sure if Vegeta was trying to trick him or not about his energy being depleted.

 

[p123]

Haha, very good point. Piccolo would have sucked off Gero again and saved the day.

 

[ahill1]

Remarkably sounds like 75-80% to me.

Sick Goku 100
Android 19 Post 90
Post KHH Goku 80
Android 19 Pre 70


You keep worrying about what cuts it. You are using the statements to try to push your agenda, you should let the statements dictate the numbers.

Weren't you saying #19 pre should be 75% + of sick Goku?

 

[p123]

70-75 is fine considering that 19 can max be 60% of Vegeta.

 

[Victorious]

Goku post KHH vs Perfect Cell was stated to have lost a lot of power and I have him dropping from 100 to 85. Same thing could be true for Goku here. Also P123..i think u having Initial sick SSJ Goku a 100 to 70 gap on 19 pre is too big. A 100 to 80 gap sounds better IMO.

 

[Victorious]

BTW..Goku post KHH is in no way rivalling #19 post. That loks more like a FP 2nd form Freeza > weighted Piccolo gap. He didnt put up a "good fight" at all.

 

[p123]

You also think 19 being 60% of Vegeta is too big of a gap. But you also don't know why it must be that way. That's the highest we could go. Simply too many variables at play to make it any lower.

 

[Victorious]

The gap between initial sick Goku and post KHH sick Goku is nowhere near the gap between a healthy FP SSJ Goku and initial sick Goku. U look to have those two gaps roughly the same. I dont like that.

 

[p123]

I don't know what the hell you are talking about. Let me enlighten you...

Android 19
~ initial 700,000,000,000
~ post absorption 900,000,000,000

Android 20
~ initial 800,000,000,000
~ post absorption 1,000,000,000,000

Piccolo
~ suppressed 25,000,000,000
~ full power 1,250,000,000,000

Trunks
~ base power 27,000,000,000
~ Super Saiyan 1,350,000,000,000

Son Goku
~ base power 29,000,000,000
~ Super Saiyan (post KHH) 800,000,000,000
~ Super Saiyan (sick) 1,000,000,000,000
~ Super Saiyan 1,450,000,000,000

Vegeta
~ base power 30,000,000,000
~ Super Saiyan 1,500,000,000,000

 

[Victorious]

Good i see. That works. i made a mistake. Why are ur powers in the trillions?

 

[Victorious]

Its good to see u have Piccolo much stronger than sick Goku. I agree. Though I think his gap on 20 post is bigger than sick Gokus gap on 19 pre

 

[Void]

Good i see. That works. i made a mistake. Why are ur powers in the trillions?

I was asking the same question.

 

[p123 is a God]

He is ignoring scouters... He's damn right doing it. AT's levels look like shit. P123's levels are way more accurate.