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It seems that the more Vegeta beats the hell out of Black the more it will forced Black to turn into SSJR.
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Vegeta will never get a chance to kill a major villain.Supreme said:
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Seems to be that way, they just skipped the ROSAT training since the anime have explained it already.Atem King of Niger said:SSJ2 Vegeta > SSJ Black > base Black > SSJ3 Goku
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SSJ2 Vegeta being above SSJ3 Goku is nothing new, and base Black being > SSJ3 Goku was justified in that last chapter when the Zenkais were explained, the problematic thing here is why the SSJ multipliers for Black are that low...Atem King of Niger said:SSJ2 Vegeta > SSJ Black > base Black > SSJ3 Goku
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So far, Future Zamasu seems more effective against SSJB Goku than his anime counterpart, who relied more on Black.
EDIT: After rereading the chapter, I noticed that Goku was drawn as a mere Super Saiyan when Zamasu gained the advantage with his paralyis technique. It looks like Manga Zamasu (current) isn't as impressive as I thought.
EDIT: After rereading the chapter, I noticed that Goku was drawn as a mere Super Saiyan when Zamasu gained the advantage with his paralyis technique. It looks like Manga Zamasu (current) isn't as impressive as I thought.
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I haven't really kept-up as much right-now, sadly but I definitely want to again at some point. The manga is a-lot better than the anime, in my opinion.
How do people know Goku-Black isn't Super-Saiyan Rose? Are they colouring the pages? He could be, if the pages aren't couloured? Are people just assuming?
How do people know Goku-Black isn't Super-Saiyan Rose? Are they colouring the pages? He could be, if the pages aren't couloured? Are people just assuming?
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@Hure It's stated by Black himself and visually shown that he advanced to Super Saiyan Rosé.
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SuperSaiyan2 said:Reading chapter 20 and finding out that Zenkais exist. That's fucking expected of this shit at this point.
Not to mention post-zenkai Black beat SSJB Vegeta so badly he would've gotten a zenkai had he not maxed out, but then he got... another increase from Vegeta hitting him hard enough to just bloody his face after not powering up in the slightest
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Only for Black but not Goku and Vegeta.
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Atem King of Niger said:SuperSaiyan2 said:Reading chapter 20 and finding out that Zenkais exist. That's fucking expected of this shit at this point.
Not to mention post-zenkai Black beat SSJB Vegeta so badly he would've gotten a zenkai had he not maxed out, but then he got... another increase from Vegeta hitting him hard enough to just bloody his face after not powering up in the slightest
Then you say that: Goku Black SSJR >>> Goku Black SSJ (Pre SSJR)> Goku Black SSJ (Zenkai)> Vegeta SSJB >>>>>>>>>> Vegeta SSJ2> Goku Black SSJ (Vs Vegeta)?
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Just noticed when rereading the chapter that Goku was just a regular SSJ when Zamasu was gaining the advantage for some reason. It doesn't seem to be an artistic error either, since SSJ Goku and SSB Vegeta were seen in the same panel.Spiral-Force said:
So, Anime Present Zamasu >> Manga Future Zamasu?
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I just finished rereading the chapter and noticed that too.Captain Cadaver said:
That seems to be the case right now. Though, that hierarchy may change in accordance to future chapters.Captain Cadaver said:
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Zamasu did manage to damage Goku significantly off-screen, so maybe we can assume that Anime Present Zamasu = Manga Future Zamasu.
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That isn't really implied. After getting into a stance to use his paralysis technique, Zamasu paralyses Goku then lands one kick on him. Goku then lands after being kicked away, and we see superficial damage on his face. After that, we see Zamasu maintain his stance and control of Goku from positions similar to the distances between them as before, and with superficial damage on Goku's face that corresponds to what was displayed on him before.Captain Cadaver said:
Anime Present Zamasu performed decently against a Goku that looked like he was in his SSJ2 form, and that was without the aid of a paralysis technique or anything akin to that. Because of that, I'd still put him below his present anime counterpart for now.Captain Cadaver said:
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New Chapter leak!!!
Complicated time travel rules mean they can only go back to Trunks' future once more. The connection between the 2 timelines is weakening
Beerus refuses to go to the future. "I've destroyed the Zamasu in the present. I'll leave the rest to you."
Goku plans to learn the Mafuba, but Vegeta doesn't want to rely on it. He'll beat SS Rozé himself!
Black is about to kill Trunks, but Gowasu appears via the Time Ring and takes Trunks and Mai back to the past. Different than the anime!
Goku learns the Mafuba without the aid of Sea Turtle in this version
The Mafuba requires the user's stamina to pull off. Roshi wouldn't be able to seal Zamasu away himself; he'd just die.
Zamasu is worried about Omni-King finding out about them. Tomorrow they'll kill the remaining Earthlings and go to some other planet.
Black and Zamasu take out the remaining Earthlings. Somehow this looks vaguely familiar...
Gowasu tries to reason with Black, gets immediately stabbed. Black: "This is the 3rd time I've done this! Did you think I would hesitate?"
Vegeta finishes training: "Just you wait, you bastard!" Goku's done too. End of chapter.
Complicated time travel rules mean they can only go back to Trunks' future once more. The connection between the 2 timelines is weakening
Beerus refuses to go to the future. "I've destroyed the Zamasu in the present. I'll leave the rest to you."
Goku plans to learn the Mafuba, but Vegeta doesn't want to rely on it. He'll beat SS Rozé himself!
Black is about to kill Trunks, but Gowasu appears via the Time Ring and takes Trunks and Mai back to the past. Different than the anime!
Goku learns the Mafuba without the aid of Sea Turtle in this version
The Mafuba requires the user's stamina to pull off. Roshi wouldn't be able to seal Zamasu away himself; he'd just die.
Zamasu is worried about Omni-King finding out about them. Tomorrow they'll kill the remaining Earthlings and go to some other planet.
Black and Zamasu take out the remaining Earthlings. Somehow this looks vaguely familiar...
Gowasu tries to reason with Black, gets immediately stabbed. Black: "This is the 3rd time I've done this! Did you think I would hesitate?"
Vegeta finishes training: "Just you wait, you bastard!" Goku's done too. End of chapter.
