Recent Chapter Discussion

[Fantastische Hure]

I mean they both suck mostly.

 

[SSJ2]

Mostly?

 

[Fantastische Hure]

The manga version of the Future Trunks saga was kind-of alright compared to the garbage that the anime writers came-up with IIRC.

 

[SSJ2]

 

[Fantastische Hure]

Well everything up-until the final battle, or at-least the first half.

 

[Southern Gothic]

My biggest issue with this arc is that it’s felt like one ongoing battle, But it never shifts gears. Transformations and power ups are nullified by the end of every chapter. Not to mention this is supposed to involve the four strongest beings in the Universe, yet everything feels scaled down to BoDB level. Not once have I ever felt that more than a small city block was in danger of being ruined up to this point.

 

[SSJ2]

I'd argue the same for the anime honestly. It was okay until Black materialized the Scythe.

 

[SSJ2]

Yeah the fact that this Namekian can even be in the same vicinity as this fight is pretty hilarious.

 

[Fantastische Hure]

I'd argue the same for the anime honestly. It was okay until Black materialized the Scythe.

I don't know how many times it happened in the manga, but didn't they travel like 3 or so times in the anime? Fighting, losing, going-back, train or do something & then back to the future. It was very repetitive and pointless.

 

[Southern Gothic]

Yeah the fact that this Namekian can even be in the same vicinity as this fight is pretty hilarious.

I mean, we can’t even get an old fashioned “What a tremendous Ki” like the old days. People are just transforming and powering up left and right, but it all feels the same.

 

[Papasmurf]

Yeah I don't have time to waste reading Super right now, if the Granolah arc finishes by... next summer lol, I might read it when I have that much time. Until then it's worthless tripe that isn't even worth wasting my time on. Dunno why Super can't stick with a transformation for longer than 2 or 3 arcs max (in the anime Blue was quickly superseded by Kaioken Blue as the highest form in one arc lol, and the manga quickly came up with Completed Blue too). And each battle just results in some reversal that leads to more of the same. AT admitted a lot of the stuff in Z was a repetitive formula but that's been taken to the nth degree with Subpar. Trashy

 

[Ultimate Cell]

Yeah I don't have time to waste reading Super right now, if the Granolah arc finishes by... next summer lol, I might read it when I have that much time. Until then it's worthless tripe that isn't even worth wasting my time on. Dunno why Super can't stick with a transformation for longer than 2 or 3 arcs max (in the anime Blue was quickly superseded by Kaioken Blue as the highest form in one arc lol, and the manga quickly came up with Completed Blue too). And each battle just results in some reversal that leads to more of the same. AT admitted a lot of the stuff in Z was a repetitive formula but that's been taken to the nth degree with Subpar. Trashy

You gotta care to the autists on the db wiki who coom over tranformations

 

[Southern Gothic]

You gotta care to the autists on the db wiki who coom over tranformations

The only thing this arc is missing is Universal Tree Power.

 

[Pocket-Gog~]

My biggest issue with this arc is that it’s felt like one ongoing battle, But it never shifts gears. Transformations and power ups are nullified by the end of every chapter. Not to mention this is supposed to involve the four strongest beings in the Universe, yet everything feels scaled down to BoDB level. Not once have I ever felt that more than a small city block was in danger of being ruined up to this point.

It's just a glorified movie tier plot. Villain shows up, heroes fight him for a bit, heroes beat him. There's one singular location and nothing new is learnt, nor do they even really do anything that's exciting.

Except that even the DB movies had the decency to have a shorter run time and even they eventually got better plots.

 

[Pocket-Gog~]

Well everything up-until the final battle, or at-least the first half.

First half was just a mediocre version of the anime. They're not radically different, because they're fundamentally still taking from the same source.

 

[Fantastische Hure]

First half was just a mediocre version of the anime. They're not radically different, because they're fundamentally still taking from the same source.

Different enough for me (at-least from memory) to think the manga is better so no.

 

[Pocket-Gog~]

Different enough for me (at-least from memory) to think the manga is better so no.

Like what? Manga FT arc has all the same beats with the added caveat that Toyo is incapable of adding any spectacle or menace.

 

[Fantastische Hure]

OK...

 

[Pocket-Gog~]

OK...

 

[Southern Gothic]

At this point, considering the universal busting level Goku and Vegeta are to be, having someone who's a threat purely on a physical level just doesn't work anymore. The scales are just off the chart. An arc may be bad, but that doesn't mean it has to be boring. Villains like Boo and Moro worked in this way; they used unique abilities and magic to make the fights more interesting. This is also true with a character like Superman, for example. For all the talk of being invisible, people that can use magic are capable of fucking him up.

I'd call this the biggest issue with Jiren and now Granolah/Gas. Its all just them being brutes, and as a result, we see very little variety from chapter to chapter. Gas v Granolah is not much different compared to UE Vegeta v Gas or UI Galu v Gas. If Super is going to be badly written, I'd rather it be like Boo or Moro and just go balls to the walls silly and strange.

And to top it off, people are just getting stronger with the Dragon Balls, not once but twice now in a row. So there isn't even a story or reason behind that. Just contrivance.

Shame. I'd call this one the worst arc of the three manga versions I've read (ToP, Moro, Granolah). Because where those at least had variety, this one has been nothing but the worst of Dragon Ball tropes being used as a crutch.