Recent Chapter Discussion

[ahill1]

Exactly. That isn't exclusive to the Toyotaro manga though, as in the Boo arc Goku had problems moving around with 40 tons in base...

 

[Papasmurf]

Yeah it was pr ridiculous lol, Goku can fight on par with Babidi's second best warrior in base form and was in the millions on Namek but he can't lift 10 tons on each limb.

 

[Future Warrior]

Yeah it was pr ridiculous lol, Goku can fight on par with Babidi's second best warrior in base form and was in the millions on Namek but he can't lift 10 tons on each limb.

It becomes even more stupid when we've already seen Kid Goku push big ass rocks that should be weighing at least a hundred tons.

And didn't 250 pounds of weighted clothing significantly hinder Goku's speed at the 23rd budokai?

 

[ahill1]

Yeah, Goku was significantly slowed down by 100 kgs. But hey, he could at least move at super human speeds with it. He just couldn't utilize his full speed with those heavy clothes.

 

[Let's Go Fearless!]

It's one of DB's inconsistency like Trunks having a hard time walking in 150x gravity.

 

[GreatSaiyaman123]

I've seem people claiming SSJ Vegeta (U6) ~ SSJ Goku (Boo) because of the lifting feats...

 

[Captain Cadaver]

It's one of DB's inconsistency like Trunks having a hard time walking in 150x gravity.

That's not really an inconsistency. It only shows that gravity tolerance is based more on training experience than just pure power, supported by Pui Pui believing it would make a difference against Vegeta in the same arc.

 

[Pyro]

I've seem people claiming SSJ Vegeta (U6) ~ SSJ Goku (Boo) because of the lifting feats...

So Vegeta got several times weaker?

 

[Let's Go Fearless!]

Since the manga confirms that likely Hakaishin Toppo > Kefla can it work on the anime as well?

 

[Captain Cadaver]

Since the manga confirms that likely Hakaishin Toppo > Kefla can it work on the anime as well?

No. It's clear the power chains and scaling of both mediums is entirely different with such examples as the manga not having Goku use Kaioken at all or having Gohan be equal to Kefla. By that logic, we ought to be accepting Kefla ~ Initial Jiren > SSB Vegetto > Beerus > Merged Zamasu as an official chain if viewing both mediums as equivalent.

Also, it's fairly debatable whether or not Toppo will even have his Hakaishin mode in the manga, seeing as how many other characters don't have forms they used in the anime. (Goku's SSB Kaioken, SS2 Caulifla/Cabba, Kefla's controlled LSSJ form, Mutated/Giant Zamasu, etc.)

 

[Papasmurf]

Toppo calling himself a God Candidate as though it's supposed to mean something when Vegeta's been trained under an angel as well might be foreshadowing of him using Hakaishin mode later, though. Although Vegeta's buff SSJB form was confirmed as anime-only unless Faggotaro proves willing to use it in the manga.

 

[Void]

I don't think GoD Toppo will show up. Unless the Veggie burns his stache off.

 

[Captain Cadaver]

Toppo calling himself a God Candidate as though it's supposed to mean something when Vegeta's been trained under an angel as well might be foreshadowing of him using Hakaishin mode later, though. Although Vegeta's buff SSJB form was confirmed as anime-only unless Faggotaro proves willing to use it in the manga.

Whilst that's a fair point, I'd question it being solid foreshadowing. After all, Toppo doesn't explicitly know Vegeta trained under Whis, or even how long Goku did for that matter. Even if he's holding back a few things, it may not be a transformation and could be something as simple as not using Hakai. I really can't see any way for Hakaishin Toppo to happen without SSBE Vegeta or something similar.

 

[Void]

Blue Rageta shows up.

 

[Let's Go Fearless!]

I think UI Goku will take care Toppo if he does transform into a Hakaishin mode.

 

[Papasmurf]

Vegetable sucks up the aura of pseudo kaioken blue 2

 

[Void]

Veggie gets UI omen from seeing Son Kakarot get it.

 

[SSJ2]

When is next chapter?

 

[Pocket-Gog~]

When Super becomes good

 

[Pyro]

Week and half leaks will start probably.