Recent Chapter Discussion

[Captain Cadaver]

Filler in a sense that It doesn't feel like a big deal to me. Like how Fake Vegeta arc was for instance.

You can say that for all of Super when we know exactly what will happen to the main cast of U7 due to the End of Z tho'.

Super is just one huge filler arc. 2

 

[Animelover5487]

Filler in a sense that It doesn't feel like a big deal to me. Like how Fake Vegeta arc was for instance.

You can say that for all of Super when we know exactly what will happen to the main cast of U7 due to the End of Z tho'.

Super is just one huge filler arc. 2

Seeing as the Saiyans origin story was retconned. It is plausible the events of the ending of Z will be retconned.

 

[Let's Go Fearless!]

Filler in a sense that It doesn't feel like a big deal to me. Like how Fake Vegeta arc was for instance.

You can say that for all of Super when we know exactly what will happen to the main cast of U7 due to the End of Z tho'.

Super is just one huge filler arc. 2

Well EoZ needs to happen ASAP.

 

[Let's Go Fearless!]

Have you guys actually read the new chapter above?

 

[Papasmurf]

Filler in a sense that It doesn't feel like a big deal to me. Like how Fake Vegeta arc was for instance.

You can say that for all of Super when we know exactly what will happen to the main cast of U7 due to the End of Z tho'.

Super is just one huge filler arc. 2

In fairness, GT spoiled what will happen to Galu and Pan by releasing that garbo Hero's Legacy special after the Baby arc, making thr S17 and Evil Dragons arcs even more worthless in retrospect.

 

[Captain Cadaver]

Seeing as the Saiyans origin story was retconned. It is plausible the events of the ending of Z will be retconned.

The Saiyans' origin story wasn't in the manga though and whilst the Bardock story was retconned from what information we got in the manga, it isn't as major a plot change as altering the entire finale of the original manga.

In fairness, GT spoiled what will happen to Galu and Pan by releasing that garbo Hero's Legacy special after the Baby arc, making thr S17 and Evil Dragons arcs even more worthless in retrospect.

Not really. It established that Goku was no longer in the living world in the traditional sense and Pan was the last surviving Z-Warrior, making the fates of the rest of the main cast arguable until shown.

 

[Papasmurf]

It still meant none of the villains succeeded in their goals of universal destruction, so a minor difference, really.

 

[Captain Cadaver]

To be fair, it's pretty obvious from the tone of the series that the villains wouldn't entirely succeed anyway. However, not knowing what happened to most of the cast prior to the special still offered the succeeding arcs far more tension than not only knowing who would survive the series, but what roles they'd be hoisted into by the end.

 

[Papasmurf]

Though I doubt Toei put much more thought into the other senshi's absences other than "well it's a hundred years later so they all just went and died I guess LUL"

 

[Captain Cadaver]

Moro: Life has managed to grow and spread throughout the universe.

If 28 planets is what you call spreading life, I don't want to know how few habitable planets there were in his time. 2

Moro's strength seems hard to place. Goku and Vegeta thought he'd be nothing special, but he can dodge hits from SSJ Vegeta and take a kick from PSSB Vegeta, even if assuming Vegeta's toying with him. Guessing whether through magic or a power up, Moro's going to stomp him in the next chapter.

 

[Papasmurf]

I thought Vegeta only went up to SSJG against Moro?

 

[Void]

I thought Vegeta only went up to SSJG against Moro?

Yep. He only used SSG. He still should have CSSB and whatever that asspull was in the ToP.

 

[Pyro]

"but I cunt gains that form without mah bulma rage"

But he can surpass SS3 Goku with just SS2. Herp derp.

Anyway, yeah, he's got Complete Super Saiyan Blue and should logically have Super Saiyan Blue Evolved, which is more than a two times boost. Moro's magic would have to be very strong to whoop his ass, but then again, Kaioshin held off SS2 Gohan and he's weak as piss.

 

[Captain Cadaver]

I thought Vegeta only went up to SSJG against Moro?

It was difficult to tell on the first read due to how much of a piss poor job Tracetaro did at distinguishing the forms and how he usually adds a sparkle effect when the SSG transformation occurs, but looking at the scrawny arms and his eyes still having a visible pupil, you're right.

Anyway, yeah, he's got Complete Super Saiyan Blue and should logically have Super Saiyan Blue Evolved, which is more than a two times boost.

I imagine SSBE is a temporary, plot determined power up, given how having it would definitely change the status-quo between he and Goku. The panel showing the events of the Broly film also showed him as only using PSSB when fighting SSJ .

Moro's magic would have to be very strong to whoop his ass, but then again, Kaioshin held off SS2 Gohan and he's weak as piss.

Shin caught him off guard tho'.

 

[Let's Go Fearless!]

Didn't expect Moro to be that skinny. I pictured his body like Buff Boo or something.

 

[Captain Cadaver]

He's been locked up for about 10 million years and has only survived through the life force of the planets he drained, so I certainly wouldn't have expected him to have a body of Manly GAINZ.

 

[Let's Go Fearless!]

Maybe by absorbing later he'll have that kind of body.

 

[Void]

I thought Vegeta only went up to SSJG against Moro?

It was difficult to tell on the first read due to how much of a piss poor job Tracetaro did at distinguishing the forms and how he usually adds a sparkle effect when the SSG transformation occurs, but looking at the scrawny arms and his eyes still having a visible pupil, you're right.

Anyway, yeah, he's got Complete Super Saiyan Blue and should logically have Super Saiyan Blue Evolved, which is more than a two times boost.

I imagine SSBE is a temporary, plot determined power up, given how having it would definitely change the status-quo between he and Goku. The panel showing the events of the Broly film also showed him as only using PSSB when fighting SSJ .

Moro's magic would have to be very strong to whoop his ass, but then again, Kaioshin held off SS2 Gohan and he's weak as piss.

Shin caught him off guard tho'.

I'm not sure Vegeta's form was temporary. I think we'll see it again, unless Toryiama/Toyotaro decide to ditch UI completely, then I could see Vegeta's evolved form BS being ditched.

 

[Keedounan]

Viz DBS Manga Chapter 45 (Full -English):
https://mangaplus.shueisha.co.jp/viewer/1001365

 

[Pyro]

Vegeta's form is permanent apparently, or at least accessible at will.