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Tullece is overrated IMO.. People put him around 100k before eating the fruit... I will prove he is just at the 30k mark...
Let's start with Tullece's first appearance
Tullece is first shown in his spaceship.. He then shows himself after Gohan beat Rakasei.. He then grabs Gohan and states his battle power is 10,000... Tullece is shown to easily grab Gohan and even grabs his punch without effort, making him suffer.. Tullece is far stronger than 10,000 based on it
Tullece >> 10k Gohan
Context: Tullece senses Piccolo arriving
Tullece: "Something is coming. Battle power 18,000."
Tullece then sees Piccolo and says his power level is 18,000.. He is later shown defeating Piccolo pretty easily when he was with no weights... Piccolo's power without weights should be over 20,000 likely around Zarbon and Dodoria... Tullece easily beats him..
Tullece > over 20,000
Now this is when many people get confused.. Oozaru Gohan is shown to be ale to beat Kaioken x2 Goku who should be at least 60,000.. Gohan then attacks Tullece who dodges him and claims Oozaru Gohan is no match for him... That must mean Tullece is ahead of 100,000... Oozaru is 10x normal..
However there ae a few problems with it... Tullece is shown to be freaking scared when he reads Goku's power is 30,000
Tullece is scared and sweating.. If Tullece was stronger than Oozaru Gohan and at 100,000, wy was he araid of a power level of 30,000?
Let's see a similar reading in the Freeza Saga..
Recoome reads Vegeta's power level is 30,000... He is surprised but he never shows any sign of fear like Tullece or that he can't keep up with him.. He is just surprised... He then easily beat Vegeta.. Tullece was clearly at a disadvantage vs Goku... While, Goku's power was said to have rosen rapidly... It was never said by how much but if it was way stronger than 30,000, it would have ben stated. It was not stated so there is no reason to think Goku's power even reaced 40,000 which is Recoome's power... Based on that, Recoome > Tullece is clear
Furthermore, Tullece only shows the abillity to fbeat Piccolo who is over 20,000 at best... Piccolo fired the Makkankosapo and Tullece was shown to deflect it... However, Tullece is shown greeting his teeth like he had to put some effort in tanking the blast.. Note, Piccolo's blast was not amplified, so it was not much stronger than his power... Tullece even says that Piccolo's blast hurt him a little
Context: after Tullece blocks Piccolo's Makkankosapo
Tullece: That hurt a little bit."
The fight with Piccolo and Goku clearly contradicts what's shown before with Oozaru Gohan.. TOEI likely just did their plot hole again.. Gohan was also injured and weakened and it's possible his attack was amplified.. Goku wanting to save Gohan is no proof either because he wanted to make him back to normal..
Now, movie 3 was revealed between episodes 54 to 55.. The strongest character in the Anime was Monster Zarbon who was close to 30,000.. It makes no sense fo Tullece and Goku's base being that strong compaed to him. They are just 30,000+... The movie was also before Goku used the 100G... He can't be close at all to his Ginyu Arc self... M4 Goku is 90,000 and far stronger than M3 Goku... Recoome is clearly stronger than Tullece based on both's reaction and the movie being released before even the Ginyu Force appeared..
Tullece after the fruit was intended to be in par with 1st form Freeza IMO.. That's another case of Goku can't be so strong.. I also think that Tullece didn't gain much power after the second fruit because Goku sucked the power from the tree of might and also because after he ate the fruit, his body never had any change and he looked at the tree like something was wrong with it
We also know Kaioken doubles your max power and Goku lost to Oozar Gohan so at best M3 Goku is 45k
Let's start with Tullece's first appearance
Tullece is first shown in his spaceship.. He then shows himself after Gohan beat Rakasei.. He then grabs Gohan and states his battle power is 10,000... Tullece is shown to easily grab Gohan and even grabs his punch without effort, making him suffer.. Tullece is far stronger than 10,000 based on it
Tullece >> 10k Gohan
Context: Tullece senses Piccolo arriving
Tullece: "Something is coming. Battle power 18,000."
Tullece then sees Piccolo and says his power level is 18,000.. He is later shown defeating Piccolo pretty easily when he was with no weights... Piccolo's power without weights should be over 20,000 likely around Zarbon and Dodoria... Tullece easily beats him..
Tullece > over 20,000
Now this is when many people get confused.. Oozaru Gohan is shown to be ale to beat Kaioken x2 Goku who should be at least 60,000.. Gohan then attacks Tullece who dodges him and claims Oozaru Gohan is no match for him... That must mean Tullece is ahead of 100,000... Oozaru is 10x normal..
However there ae a few problems with it... Tullece is shown to be freaking scared when he reads Goku's power is 30,000
Tullece is scared and sweating.. If Tullece was stronger than Oozaru Gohan and at 100,000, wy was he araid of a power level of 30,000?
Let's see a similar reading in the Freeza Saga..
Recoome reads Vegeta's power level is 30,000... He is surprised but he never shows any sign of fear like Tullece or that he can't keep up with him.. He is just surprised... He then easily beat Vegeta.. Tullece was clearly at a disadvantage vs Goku... While, Goku's power was said to have rosen rapidly... It was never said by how much but if it was way stronger than 30,000, it would have ben stated. It was not stated so there is no reason to think Goku's power even reaced 40,000 which is Recoome's power... Based on that, Recoome > Tullece is clear
Furthermore, Tullece only shows the abillity to fbeat Piccolo who is over 20,000 at best... Piccolo fired the Makkankosapo and Tullece was shown to deflect it... However, Tullece is shown greeting his teeth like he had to put some effort in tanking the blast.. Note, Piccolo's blast was not amplified, so it was not much stronger than his power... Tullece even says that Piccolo's blast hurt him a little
Context: after Tullece blocks Piccolo's Makkankosapo
Tullece: That hurt a little bit."
The fight with Piccolo and Goku clearly contradicts what's shown before with Oozaru Gohan.. TOEI likely just did their plot hole again.. Gohan was also injured and weakened and it's possible his attack was amplified.. Goku wanting to save Gohan is no proof either because he wanted to make him back to normal..
Now, movie 3 was revealed between episodes 54 to 55.. The strongest character in the Anime was Monster Zarbon who was close to 30,000.. It makes no sense fo Tullece and Goku's base being that strong compaed to him. They are just 30,000+... The movie was also before Goku used the 100G... He can't be close at all to his Ginyu Arc self... M4 Goku is 90,000 and far stronger than M3 Goku... Recoome is clearly stronger than Tullece based on both's reaction and the movie being released before even the Ginyu Force appeared..
Tullece after the fruit was intended to be in par with 1st form Freeza IMO.. That's another case of Goku can't be so strong.. I also think that Tullece didn't gain much power after the second fruit because Goku sucked the power from the tree of might and also because after he ate the fruit, his body never had any change and he looked at the tree like something was wrong with it
We also know Kaioken doubles your max power and Goku lost to Oozar Gohan so at best M3 Goku is 45k
