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I just minimized my Battle Power list a ton, starting as far back as the Late Freeza Arc. My End Of Z Battle Powers will come soon.
 
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I know Kibitoshin isn’t anything special, but not even being the sum of Shin and Kibito’s powers is definitely pushing it.
 

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I know Kibitoshin isn’t anything special, but not even being the sum of Shin and Kibito’s powers is definitely pushing it.
Zamasu in Toriyama's original draft was practically the sum of Black and Future Zamasu though lol
 

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Zamasu in Toriyama's original draft was practically the sum of Black and Future Zamasu though lol

There’s a huge gap between Black and Zamasu though, which isn’t the case with Shin and Kibito (at least not in this list). Also the draft ended up meaning shit when both anime and manga Merged Zamasu needed Vegetto to be surpassed.
 

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The relatively small boost from mastering SSJB's Ki drain (which somehow increased its power lol) was enough to close the gap between Goku and Zamasu if not slightly surpass him though. It was a very small fusion boost either way. But yeah I didn't even look at Yoshit's numbers, I just entertained the option that a small fusion boost is possible when Zamasu in the manga and original draft probably didn't even increase his power 3x.
 

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I know Kibitoshin isn’t anything special, but not even being the sum of Shin and Kibito’s powers is definitely pushing it.
p123 said that Kibitoshin isn't going anywhere past the Base Saiyan threshold, so I figured that placing him right between Pocus and Gohan would be appropriate. I don't know as much about fusion as some other members.
 

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Goku said the fusion was astounding when he saw Kibito and :shin fuse via the Potara, rather than decrying how little of a boost it was. You definitely should raise it if you don't even have it as a sum of their powers wtf
 

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Elder Kai thought the fusion was shit though, LOL. He would know better because he's also a fusion of someone who made his power shit.
 

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Elder Kai thought the fusion was shit though, LOL. He would know better because he's also a fusion of someone who made his power shit.
Except Kibito is nowhere near as piss weak as the witch and Goku didn't dispute the fact that the Potara was superior to the Dance as the old man told him, while only having Kibitoshin to go off of
 

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Fair enough. I will place him above all of the Base Saiyans considering.
 

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I have: Kibitoshin = Vegeta SSJ2 (Pre Majin).
 

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Okay, I did the End Of Z, but I'm having difficulty placing Pan. This is the very last issue I have. LOL.
 

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I just placed her at 10,000,000,000,000. I think that's fair.
 

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I can see that Vegeta could have SSJ3 in EoZ theoretically, but do you think Trunks and Goten could too despite having little training in those 10 years?
 

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I can see that Vegeta could have SSJ3 in EoZ theoretically, but do you think Trunks and Goten could too despite having little training in those 10 years?
Yes. I mean Gotenks attained SSJ3 as well.
 

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I never said Kibito Kai wasn't Base Saiyan level. I just said he's definitely nowhere near Ssj2 level.
 
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