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    Future Trunks is in mid-30s?!

    Vegeta/Bulma/Goku are significantly older than him, so I'm not too surprised by this (especially with 2/3 of those people being his parents). The younger/older Trunks dynamic is a unique one, but younger Trunks seems like someone that wouldn't take titles all that seriously. I'd say the pep talk...
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    Viewing One Piece

    2 episodes in, You get a clear enough sense of what Luffy embodies, and what's expected to come from his highly dangerous, highly rewarding life goal. While Zoro's personality very much differs from his own, you can tell he's on the same page when it comes to being up for a fight. The primary...
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    Viewing One Piece

    Planning to watch and (after some time has passed) read One Piece from start to whatever the current episode & chapter is. Quite a lengthy franchise, but it's an opportunity to absorb a bunch of details and (with this thread in particular) analyse what's being viewed. Say for instance, an...
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    Future Trunks is in mid-30s?!

    Do you have an example regarding his treatment that stood out to you? If it's something like Beerus (who's absolutely ancient in comparison) calling him a boy, I don't think that's out of place.
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    Ivan Drago (Rocky IV) vs George Foreman

    During the punch demonstration scene, it's stated that a normal heavyweight averages 700 PSI. There are some references to IRL boxers, such as Joe Frazier who's seen interacting with Apollo, and a shot of a Rocky Marciano poster.
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    SS3 Gokuu, SS3 Vegeeta, SS3 Gotenks, and Ultimate Gohan should've fought Pure Boo.

    What happens after they get stomped? Tables turned with drastically low energy, Movie 8-style?
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    Bojack (FP) vs Perfect Cell (FP)?

    IIRC, M9 didn't have any direct scaling to Broly or Hatchiyack (Galaxy level minimum). So I suppose the likeness between M9 and CG Gohan is the only thing to go off of. In that case, likely PC through his more varied moveset.
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    Ivan Drago (Rocky IV) vs George Foreman

    Drago puts him to sleep with unprecedented 2150 PSI punches. He's superhuman at minimum.
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    Rate the last Anime/Manga you finished out of 10

    Serial Experiments Lain - 7/10 It keeps you thinking, and in some instances, re-evaluating what you previously concluded. There was enough variance for the audience to form interpretations, while giving clarity on the foundational elements it was going for along the way. Some of the earlier...
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    Is Tao's physical power unique?

    We should give credence to something with zero sample size? Not exactly a Guinness World Record entry with multiple participants trying their hand at this.
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    Is Tao's physical power unique?

    I don't think Tao was intended to have an excess stat, just unorthodox tendencies, like the way he beat Blue. This doesn't mean anyone that scales higher could do it as smoothly, necessarily.
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    What have you been watching in the past 7 days?

    Couple of episodes into Serial Experiments Lain. The slow-pacing hasn't bothered me since there's always something going on. I find it to be engaging so far.
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    This should've happened to Bulma

    Hello. - Here are the forum rules: https://dbzeta.net/threads/forum-rules.1/ - I read your rebuttal to him. It looks like you were focused on points, which is the baseline for debate. Nothing malicious about such an approach. - Only thing I'd suggest is to double-check your quoting. You did...
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    People overrate Birus's superiority over Gokuu.

    The idea of "moving the goalpost" tends to be ascribed to Beerus, but that's because he's still treated as relevant later in the anime/manga + supplementary material. His dominance over SSJ3 Goku is the last thing people would point to, out of all the ways to analyse him.
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    This should've happened to Bulma

    I've yet to come across anyone so anti-Bulma. She's generally not at the forefront of people's minds as much as combat-driven characters, so I suppose the incentive to form a strong opinion on her (whether high or low) isn't of great importance. On the flipside, is there any character you like...
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    Anyone Watch Through The Series Recently?

    I think you're on the right track. Another factor is how people treat what we saw. Quite a number of Vegeta's fans feel sorry for him as a result, but it's just how his character is constructed. Maybe if there was a B (to the main villain's A) antagonist (with a far closer gap than Ginyu/Frieza...
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    Anyone Watch Through The Series Recently?

    Still look at clips every now and then. Something I've thought about recently is that Vegeta hardly reflects on strategic blunders in his fight career, just the PL differences in the end.
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    Anime Pure Boo > Super Vegetto

    Finishing someone off doesn't constitute winning? One of your own quotes goes against that. Look below: Conclusion: Super Saiyan 3 Goku has the power to put Kid Buu away, but he wasn't fighting efficiently. The whole point of Vegito was to utilize power that exceeds his fusees, giving them an...
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    Bring-back the old friend-group

    I could maybe see Yamcha as the clumsy espionage guy, like Piccolo in Super Hero. Perhaps Zeno would be intrigued by Puar, being entertained by his shape-shifting; could make it a competition between him and Oolong. Though this may be considered bittersweet tidbits at best to someone that's...
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    Boss-Rabbit vs Freeza

    Could see a scenario where the rabbit tries to be sneaky, gets caught, then vaporized. The storyline isn't particularly charitable to characters leaps and bounds weaker than their opponent.

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