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  1. Papasmurf

    Gohan SSJ2 (Arc Super #17) vs Majuub (Arc Super #17)?

    I see nothing contradicting it.
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    Gohan SSJ2 (Arc Super #17) vs Majuub (Arc Super #17)?

    I guess that makes sense if you think everyone was just having a "big blast gets fired and everyone wonders if it worked before the enemy shows up unscathed" PIS moment when Gohan fired his Kamehameha
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    Gohan SSJ2 (Arc Super #17) vs Majuub (Arc Super #17)?

    isn't base Vegeta only evenly matched with He'll Fighter #17 though? Do you have HF17 >> all other Z senshi?
  4. Papasmurf

    Gohan SSJ2 (Arc Super #17) vs Majuub (Arc Super #17)?

    I think that chain works fine, other than base Vegeta seeming a bit OP @SIAD
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    Gohan SSJ2 (Arc Super #17) vs Majuub (Arc Super #17)?

    Yeah that's probably best. S17 arc is a giant mess with power chains all over the place, but you can at least justify stuff like SSJ Goku > SSJ2 Vegeta >> SSJ2 Gohan with explanations like Goku's base level continually rising due to unlocking SSJ4 which gave him his max potential, and Vegeta...
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    Gohan SSJ2 (Arc Super #17) vs Majuub (Arc Super #17)?

    To give Mu and Gero some credit, I don't think they expected Hell Freeza and Cell to be able to defeat Goku after he was trapped in Hell, given that Mu didn't say anything about SSJ Goku surpassing expectations. They probably just thought Goku would be stuck in Hell since Piccolo resigning...
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    Gohan SSJ2 (Arc Super #17) vs Majuub (Arc Super #17)?

    I think they're either just listing the Saiyan warriors (not the first time a guidebook statement conflicts with the source material or uses weird benchmarks for comparison, gets established power chains wrong like Daimao > Kami); or Gohan might have gotten a rage boost, if you really want to...
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    Gohan SSJ2 (Arc Super #17) vs Majuub (Arc Super #17)?

    I think Majuub wins. Baby was at least able to amuse himself by holding back against base Oob and Majuub was able to make him struggle at least a little bit, and I think SBV2 = SSJ2 S17 arc Vegeta. This Vegeta should be leagues above Gohan. Though, Gohan also seems to be stronger considering he...
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    Krillen vs Tien throughout the years

    They used the term Chikyuu-jin in the interview which means Earthling. Saiyans, androids aren't counted. Because Kuririn was carrying the Senzus. Not to mention it's plain as day Ten would get oneshotted by the androids seeing as they were expected to be >> SSJ Future Trunks, so his irrelevancy...
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    Are Senzu Beans Still Utilized In DBS?

    They were used in the RoF arc multiple times.
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    What's the gap between Future Trunks and Future Androids in the anime?

    About the same difference between a bitch and a bitch ass nigga
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    Krillen vs Tien throughout the years

    How so? Ten has zero feats aside from stalling Semi with a technique that amplifies his strength to plot breaking levels, and even then, the Daizenshuu states the Kikoho is like a glorified Kiai.
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    How Does A Senzu Bean Function Exactly?

    It's supposed to make you full for 10 days, but Goku seemed to still want to eat more after ingesting one. The healing properties weren't introduced until the Daimao arc, where it's just infodumped that it heals wounds.
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    Are Senzu Beans Still Utilized In DBS?

    They vanish for no reason in GT, they still get used in Super's RoF, Zamasu and ToP arcs. They're in most of the manga arcs as well.
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    BoZ Weighted Goku = 23rd Weightless Goku?

    I don't think Toei even intended it to be a power statement, just padding to drag out the episode enough for it to not catch up to the manga. Toei contradicts these types of statements all the time on their own anyway, like how some sources state Goku hadn't gotten any weaker upon turning to a...
  16. Papasmurf

    BoZ Weighted Goku = 23rd Weightless Goku?

    Why give an anime-only, offhand statement this much credence?
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    Why are manga more gag than their anime counter-parts?

    Directoral preferences. And certain jokes may not transfer well from paper to the small screen.
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    Possibility Of Oozaru?

    Paragus still has a tail as well as all the Saiyans who died when Planet Vegeta blew up in flashbacks.
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    Fuck GreatSaiyaman123

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    Ki blast amp discusssion thread

    https://www.kanzenshuu.com/translations/saikyo-jump-july-2014-ooishi-toriyama-scouters-qa/ This is the interview you were thinking of. Toriyama said they break when they catch a high battle power as showy staging for a comic, and that it should really be impossible since it's digital, but if he...
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